Episode 87 – OotP 10: The Squirting Scenario

All four Hogwarts houses are represented this week as we delve into Chapter 10 of Order of the Phoenix, Luna Lovegood. Join hosts Kat, Michael, Laura, and fan host Nindy as they discuss the fandom’s favorite Ravenclaw and the unfortunate situation involving Cho Chang.

On Episode 87 we discuss…

→ Episode 86 Recap: DADA Deduction; Math & JKR; Other Prefect choices; Gryffindor academics
→ PQOTW Responses
→ Does Harry NEED to be alone?
→ Is Ginny sabotaging Harry/Cho?
→ A touch of the Thestrals
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  • Elvis Gaunt

    About those articles in the Quibbler, we only read two of them and they are both true in a way. Sirius is innocent and the Ministry does take over Gringotts in Deathly Hallows.
    I wonder if Xeno Lovegood ever imagined that his article would reach Sirius.

    • ArchdukeSeverus

      Jo very rarely puts anything into her books for no reason, so I think that the Quibbler articles are probably foreshadowing in a way just like you have described above. Possibly an OGM : )

      • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

        Or, this is commentary on the media, perhaps? The “real” paper is spreading lies and rumors while the “rubbish” paper turns out to be more accurate in the end. I think Jo started the Quibbler with whimsy in mind and then used it as a metaphor. She likes to make things seem like, “oh, this isn’t important. don’t pay any attention to this!” and then suddenly that thing is hugely important. At the very least this happens with Xeno, he is name dropped a bit and then we finally meet him in DH and he helps the trio puzzle out the symbols in Beedle the Bard. He is (one of) the Mark Evans that worked.

    • AccioPotassium!

      There is even more truth to the Quibbler article about Sirius Black! In chapter twenty-three, we see our singing sensation performing his beloved Christmas songs to a rebellious antigovernment movement live at the noble house of Black! And how could anybody forget his unbelievable performance of the now instant classic, “God bless ye merry hippogriffs”

  • Elvis Gaunt

    Why do you think Cho peeped into Harry’s compartment? Did she want to talk about Cedric or was it due to romantic interest.

    • AccioPotassium!

      It is hard to identify because of the strange slimy situation she had walked into during her Harry hunting mission. It does seem unlikely she would confront Harry so soon in the school year over something as personal and controversial as the death of her boyfriend, but I would assume she is thinking about the death of Cedric when she was planning to confront Harry during the train ride to Hogwarts. It seems most likely the main reason for her desire to meet Harry is young love.

      • thegiantsquid

        I don’t know. I think she wanted to ask about Cedric. She has had to go all summer thinking about him and how he died, and whether it was true or not, and she probably was going crazy not knowing. She’s clearly very upset about it still; I doubt she’s ready to jump into Harry’s arms at this point. Harry was the only way she could find an answer, and she probably spent lots of her summer psyching herself up for asking him. How would she frame it? How can she ask, but not offend? How personal should she get? She probably got very nervous on the train, and especially when she walked into such a strange scene, chickened out.

      • Claire Marie

        I think that it is also plausible for Cho just to want to see Harry. It may be that one of the few times she can remember being happy that didn’t involve Cedric in any way involved Harry. She liked him before she liked Cedric really so she may have just thought that if she could make herself like Harry again then she wouldn’t be sad about Cedric. I do believe that she is genuinely attracted to Harry, but I think there is also the possibility of her using the idea of the two of them being together as a coping mechanism. She easily could have obsessed over him all summer thinking, “All I’ll have to do is just see Harry and I’ll be happy again!” I think this would have played out very similar to the situation TheGiantSquid laid out – only the center of focus is herself and Harry rather than Cedric.

    • Snatch The Snitch

      Maybe she wanted to ask Luna for a copy of the Quibbler

  • Elvis Gaunt

    We get a bit character insight into Ginny in this chapter. She is on friendly terms with Luna when her own house-mates seem to mock her and keep away from her and she encourages Neville when he shrinks in front of Luna. Pity we don’t see much of this side of her.
    Helping Neville is something Harry should have done having been his roommate and classmate for four years now, instead he wishes he was in a cooler company when Cho turns up. It shows how much he is yet to grow up in spite of what he felt at the end of the previous chapter.
    Speaking of Neville, he so quick to say he a nobody when asked for his name in a slightly different manner. It always horrified me; how can anybody be so low on self-confidence. The DA really did wonders on him.

    • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

      When I read this scene on the train I always think of the parallel scene in HBP.

      “Hi, Harry, I’m Romilda, Romilda Vane… Why don’t you join us in our compartment? You don’t have to sit with *them.*” …”They’re friends of mine.” Harry said coldly. …”People expect you to have cooler friends than us,” said Luna… …”You are cool,” said Harry… (Half-Blood Prince, 138-139, US Edition)

      Harry does a lot of growing up from year 5 to year 6, and it is probably most apparent in these two scenes. The wording is almost identically opposite, first he wishes he were sitting somewhere with ‘cooler’ people, then on HBP, he gets an offer to sit somewhere else and confidently declines in favor of sitting with his (now) ‘cool’ friends. Also of note, while comparing the two scenes, Ginny is in the first (OotP) but absent in the second (HBP) due to a meeting with Dean. If the first train ride is the Harry/Ginny first moment of normal interaction, it is interesting that the second is the first pang of jealousy Harry semi-registers in regards to Ginny. OGM anyone?

      As to Neville, I think we can trace his lacking in self-confidence back to his well-meaning but really not-so-helpful Grandmother. Augusta is constantly comparing Neville to his much better, more skilled, and all around great father. He grows up in the shadow of his parents achievements and even more so, since they have been driven mad and therefore achieve a kind of unattainable heroic status of bravery. In addition to that, Neville is, by nature, bumbling and forgetful so it sort of becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. As stated above, thank goodness for the DA or we may never have seen Neville break out of his shell.

      • Claire Marie

        I had never thought about that parallel scene! Definitely a genius moment from Jo! As for Neville, I definitely agree that his grandmother sapped his lack of self-esteem early on, but I think she is completely wonderful at the end. She supports him 100% and is able to connect with him more. I would say that when Neville is younger she is so grief stricken that she is grasping at anything that could bring her son back. I think that is the reason she pushes Neville so hard to be like his father. Neville was too young to remember the events around losing his parents but for his grandmother those events were very real and very traumatic.

        • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

          Hmm…I don’t know. While I completely applaud Augusta for supporting Neville in the end, she only really supports him after he becomes like his father and starts being a successful and brave fighter. If he hadn’t turned out this way, do you think Augusta would have been as supportive? I really doubt it. I’m glad Neville became what he does later on, for himself as well as for the relationship with his grandmother. I don’t doubt that Augusta was experiencing a lot of grief, not only because she ‘looses’ her son and daughter in law, but then because she now has to raise their child who is a constant reminder of her son. However, she seems unable to separate her grief for her son from what should be happiness and pride for her grandson (from day one, she should have–though it would have been difficult–separated the two people and treated them as individuals.)

          • Claire Marie

            I agree that she should have treated them as individuals, but with Neville being so young and just losing her son (and yet still being able to physically see him) I think that would have been almost impossible. I completely agree in that she should have treated him better, though. Also, Neville really doesn’t start maturing until the death eaters escape in Order. He then finally experiences the anger as well as the sense of loss that comes with grief. Because his grandmother was at an age where she could understand what happened, she experienced the sense of loss and anger all at the same time, which isn’t the case for Neville. I think he was always going to turn out like his parents. None of his maturity is owed to his grandmother – all of that came from within him. So while I agree in that she wouldn’t have been so supportive if he wasn’t like his parents, I think that would have been more about her having to watch him be less than he was meant to be (not living up to his potential) and less about his choices, lack of talent, etc.

          • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

            Right, I think what you are saying is that she knows what he is capable of and so pushes him to be better, because she knows it is in him to be better. Hmm. I guess I haven’t looked at it from that perspective before. I always just see Augusta as this pushy Grandmother wistfully thinking about her son and how (the memory of him/his accomplishments) is better than what she has now in Neville. It always disconcerted me how she acted almost like a child who wants cake but gets a cookie instead. Both are good but since what they want is the cake, the cookie just can’t measure up since it is not cake. I like it better your way. It makes Augusta seem less like an annoyed child and more like someone who believes in Neville so intensely they are willing to push him to be the great person he becomes. Still not a fan of *how* she does it, but I feel better about it all, at least. :)

          • Claire Marie

            I completely agree Ms Longbottom could have used some alternate methods, but I really do think all of her pushing is because she just wants the very best for Neville. She also probably had the sense to know that the war wasn’t over so to speak and they were going to have to fight again. If she had any inkling that Neville was going to end up fighting against Voldemort or his death eaters, she would want Neville to be as prepared as possible. I think she comes from a place of love. I also think she would have been very determined to do anything she could possibly do to ensure that she didn’t lose yet another family member.

          • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

            Yep, you’re right. I’m reading, (well, listening to the audio books, anyway,) the upcoming chapter, The Sorting Hat’s New Song, and Neville says, “My Gran’s always said You-Know-Who would come back one day. She says if Dumbledore says he’s back, he’s back.” Not sure what the page number is as I am transcribing this from the audio, but it deffinitely confirms that Mrs. Longbottom thought it was very likely for a new war to break out. The way you are describing her reminds me of Mrs. Weasley with that fierce love for family. They both have previously lost family members and also have more family in harms way. I think they approach it differently, since Mrs. Longbottom encourages Neville to keep fighting while Molly prefers if everyone just stayed home and safe, but they remind me of each other. I never have drawn a comparison between them before so that’s pretty interesting.

          • Claire Marie

            I hadn’t thought of that parallel but that’s a great one! The definitely have different methods, but they definitely come from the same place! Such a great observation!

  • Elvis Gaunt

    Does Hermione’s animosity towards Pansy come from the interviews the latter gave to Rita Skeeter the previous year? Wow, Hermione!

    • AccioPotassium!

      I would definitely consider the Rita Skeeter’s article would be part of Hermione’s negative opinion of Miss Parkinson’s newly promoted position of power in the ruling over her fellow students, but we have to remember she is the biggest female bully in Hermione’s year. Pansy Parkinson is also seen laughing and teasing over the petrify muggleborn students in Hermione’s second year at Hogwarts.

      • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

        Well, I had a post all made up and then it was deleted by my stellar computer so I will just keep it short and sweet and just say this: I think, though I don’t believe we actually have solid canon evidence for it, that Hermione, (especially as a first year pre-Ron and Harry,) would have been a prime target for bullying by someone like Pansy Parkinson. Hermione starts out the series as a large-toothed bushy-haired know-it-all and I think that would rub Pansy the wrong way. Due to our window into this world being through Harry’s POV, I don’t think that’s anything he’d pick up on, and therefore something we don’t see. Hermione has few female friends (I can only assume Ginny and possibly Luna? Maybe Parvati and Lavender since we know they share a dorm…?) and I can just see Pansy picking on her. We sort of see this with Rita’s article as mentioned above, but I think that stems from earlier years of possible bullying and Hermione is using those memories to feed her anger in this moment on the train. Again, not too much proof for this, just something I feel would fit into the timeline/story easily.

        • AccioPotassium!

          I agree with your hypothesis because Pansy Parkinson can’t just be bullying the trio in the last four years at Hogwarts. If she is anything like Draco Malfoy, she would be helping in the bullying of the first years on our current train ride. I think we also have evidence of Pansy bullying fellow Gryffindor student such as Neville, and Angelina Johnson.
          I was able to find a quote about Pansy Parkinson from JKR when someone asked her about Draco Malfoy’s future marriage plans in the wizarding world. “No! God, it wasn’t Pansy Parkinson. I loathe Pansy Parkinson. I don’t love Draco but I really dislike her. She’s every girl who ever teased me at school. She’s the Anti-Hermione. I loathe her. Yeah, sorry! Sidetracked there by my latent bitterness. He married Astoria Greengrass.” JKR

          • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

            Yeah for sure, I remember that quote. Unless I’m very much mistaken, that quote is from Pottercast. Maybe I was subconsciously thinking of that quote when I wrote my previous comment? Anyway, like you said, it totally fits.

          • AccioPotassium!

            You are indeed correct about the source. It comes from a 2007 PotterCast episode with the Queen herself. It still baffles me that they were able to acquired JK Rowling for a podcast episode.

  • AccioPotassium!

    Welcome back to ring composition of the Order of the Phoenix! I have listed below the connections of the last three chapters of this behemoth of a novel. These chapters seem to explode with associations compared to my last update. Some of my connections that I have found could be a stretch, but they are rather interesting anyway.

    30# After we suddenly came across Cho Chang on the Hogwarts express, we acquire some background information about her position on the Ravenclaw quidditch team.

    31# We see Professor Lupin’s silvery moon orb for the first time since PoA as he fought off the Bogart in the noble house of Black.

    32# We were presented with the entire storyboard of Peter Pettigrew once we examined the old photograph of the original members of the Order of the Phoenix.

    33# There seems to be a parallel connection between Ron and Percy in the way they admire their newfangled badge for their new position in the Gryffindor house.

    34# We were reminded of the Ministry of Magic’s ability to give motor transportation for the chosen one only two years ago.

    35# A strange connection of the way Dumbledore was three hours early for the hearing of Harry Potter, which is similar to that of the three hours Harry and Hermione whet back in time to save Sirius Black.

    36# Sirius Black seems to be following Harry throughout the day in the form of a black dog.

    37# “… You have always liked Scabbers.” Molly Weasley said after she had learned of her youngest son’s new honorable position.

    38# Dumbledore reminded us on the way the Ministry of Magic did not press any charges on Harry’s flying aunt case.

    39# We see the wizarding media speculation over the whereabouts of the mass murderer or innocent singing sensation, Sirius Black.

    40# We get a very small mention of Professor Lupin being sacked only a few years ago from the Weasley twins.

    41# Something which is hung on a wall reminded Harry that speaking to one’s self leads to utter insanity.

    42# Harry recalls the time that he had learned to cast the patronus charm from the very best defense against the dark arts teacher, Professor Lupin.

    • Jane

      I already said something similar in a comment above and is a bit of a stretch, but there is the similarities between the appearances of the thestrals and the dementors

      • AccioPotassium!

        Indeed, the two creatures do seem to have similar descriptions. I will add it to my ring composition list.

        43# There seems to be comparability between Thestrals and Dementors in their creature descriptions on the trip back to Hogwarts. (Idea given by Jane)

        44# Harry seems to feel more abnormal/ mentally ill after an encounter from a dark and mysterious creature on his way back to Hogwarts.

  • Hufflepug

    I always imagined that Lucius roped Dumbledore in to making Draco a prefect, especially considering Hogwarts’s connection to the Ministry in this book and Lucius’s previous meddling in business at Hogwarts.

    • ArchdukeSeverus

      It is possible that through some ministry influence or influence on Snape that Draco would have been made prefect but I don’t think that Lucius would be able to have enough of an effect on Dumbledore. During COS when Lucius did the most meddling he was a member of the schools board of governors but lost this job after it was found out that he was blackmailing the other members.
      I think Snape probably made the choice but possibly with encouragement from Lucius. Also despite how bad Draco is I don’t think that any of the other Slytherin males would be as capable as him in leading the Slytherins.

      • Hufflepug

        True, although the only fifth year Slytherin boys we know enough about to make that judgment are Crabbe and Goyle, which leaves a few others. Snape likely could have had something to do with it, but it’s really hard for me to picture Dumbledore just choosing someone he knows is a bully as a prefect. If Lucius hypothetically did have something to do with it, he most certainly did get inside support from Snape or Umbridge, who lets Malfoy abuse his power even more later on.

        • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

          It is possible, since we see so few slytherin boys in fifth year (as noted above) that Malfoy was actually the best choice. What does that say about the others…?

          • Hufflepug

            Yikes, I like to think that nobody’s as much of a bully as Malfoy or as stupid as Crabbe and Goyle. But perhaps Malfoy IS the best leader.

  • Snatch The Snitch

    Just wanted to point out that Scourgify is a charm so it would be taught in Flitwick’s class. When Michael was talking about if this spell could be used to clean blood I remembered another spell…Tergeo. It first appears in HBP and is later seen in DH. Hermione uses it to clean blood of off Harry’s face and also to clean dust off of photos at Bathilda Bagshot’s. So are they related or is Tergeo a more powerful spell? The Latin word “tergere” means to rub off, wipe off, wipe dry, wipe clean, cleanse. Also, as a side note: Nindy brought up how Harry said lack of healing spells were a serious flaw in his magical education. According to the wiki, wizards only become well versed in these spells if they are pursuing a career as a healer. I do agree though that Hogwarts needs to teach at least some of these spells. Hermione does seem to know some, so a little research couldn’t have hurt Harry. Here is the real question: did Harry ever read a book?

    • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

      Sure, Harry read Quidditch Through the Ages about a hundred times. I’m also betting he read his DADA books (minus the Slinkhard one) and his Flying with the Cannons book from Ron and his Broom Care Manual from Hermione, and of course, the infamous HBP copy of Advanced Potion Making…that may actually be one of the few required textbooks he’s read cover to cover. As for healing charms, in my opinion, it is, as Harry says, a serious flaw in the education at Hogwarts to not teach Healing charms. I mean, seriously, Prof. Flitwick had to have taught them something. I think it’s more likely that Harry literally just was not paying attention when those were covered. Another thing, Molly Weasley seems to know quite a few healing spells (think HBP when she attempts to remove Hermione’s ‘bruise’) and I’m pretty sure she’s not a healer, so that can’t be the only way you learn them. Do we think Molly learned them as she went along (having six sons and a daughter) or were they actually taught to her in class…?

      • Snatch The Snitch

        Ill just chalk it up to Molly reading more books than Harry lol. Having so many kids, i’m sure she would want to pick up a few books on minor healing spells and such. I’m sure a lot of wizards do it. Being a lot older and having much more experience in the wizarding world in general im sure she picked up a few things as well. When it comes to major healing spells im inclined to believe that only professionals should do it because, if not done properly it could be very dangerous. If most wizards knew complex healing there would be know need for St Mungos or Madam Pomfrey really. I completely agree that some of it should be taught at Hogwarts..no doubt. I like your idea that Harry probably just wasn’t paying attention in Flitwicks…typical Harry. And sure Harry read some books (still not sure cover to cover), but I guess what I meant was anything useful? The only ones I could believe he put time and effort into which would help his magical skills were the books for DA research. The HBP potions book im not sure he read much more than the Prince’s words and definitely not cover to cover.

        • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

          THE LOVABLE MRS. WEASLEY…AS A HEALER?!
          I was just reading through these comments and thinking about Molly in regard to her healing spells…Since Molly is effectively a stay-at-home mother, (though it can and has been argued that she has a job in OotP and beyond as a member of The Order,) I wondered what she may have chosen to do as a career had that been either more of an option (perhaps with less children?) or the only option (perhaps no children?) or if she had just decided to do both. I think she may actually have chosen to be a Healer. I know I am going almost completely into the realm of imagination versus canon, but I think it fits pretty well. She is a hard worker, very caring, firm when needed, and has a fair amount of magical prowess. As some canonical evidence, we see Molly acting very stern with Arthur later in this book for ‘having his bandages changed early,’ in HBP, we see her helping out Pomfrey with Bill’s bite, and in DH she cleans George’s ear wound and states that she cannot regrow the ear, as it was cursed off. I know there are a few more mentions of Molly helping in healing situations, so I don’t think it is merely just interest in her family’s well-being, although I am sure that is part of it. She seems generally knowledgeable on all things healing. I am also now wondering if she perhaps aided Pomfrey and the other students in the Final Battle with people’s injuries? Or was she fighting the whole time? I wish we saw more of Molly as a woman rather than just as a mother, even though we of course do get the spectacular all-out take down of a certain death eater at the end, I just wish we saw even more of her power and skill in this way. If she wasn’t a Healer, I am not sure what she’d have been. It’s a bit of struggle since the magical world is a surprisingly lacking in professions (unless you want to be A) a ministry employee, B) a Hogwarts teacher, or C) a shop owner…) and especially professions for a working mom. (Do we see any other working moms who aren’t A, B, or C?? Who am I forgetting?) What career path do YOU see Molly taking? Do we think she may have had a career in her early years pre-children? Or did she go straight from Hogwarts to marriage to babies? I’m not sure what to think, but I think Mrs. Molly Weasley as a Healer would be amazing to see!

          • Snatch The Snitch

            I think that’s a pretty cogent assumption. I believe the healing we see her perform has to do with what I said previously, but it certainly seems to fit her. Unfotunately, we know nothing(like Jon Snow) about Molly’s academic perfomance and whether or not she has the merit to be a healer. I’d presume you’d need a good amount of O.W.L.S. to become a healer. In a different life where she has no children and we knew she had the proper academic qualifications, I could definitely see her being a healer. As for other jobs in the magical world, there are plenty you just have to get creative, although there is certainly a lack of them in the books. Didn’t Molly say she brewed a Love Potion once? Thats a pretty advanced potion skill. Maybe she could mass brew potions for a company and sell them to smaller businesses? Or she could own her own buisiness. Overall, I think based on what we do know a healer is viable option for her. According to wiki she had Bill at least 2-3 years after graduating some i’m not sure if she did anything in that time. I dont think we see any other working moms in the serious that aren’t one of those 3 options you listed, but some we just don;t know what they do. The only mothers we see or hear about working would be Muggles. For example: Hermione’s mom is a dentist. Maybe there is magical dentists? I’m sure healers or going to St Mungo’s would fix a toothache though.

          • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

            Molly’s Magical Medicinal Mixtures, coming soon to a Diagon Alley stall near you! From the lexicon: “Pursuing this as a career requires at least an E at NEWT level in Potions,
            Herbology, Transfiguration, Charms, and Defense Against the Dark Arts.” Ron remarks later in OotP, (when the trio are looking at career leaflets in (i think) the chapter ‘Career Advice.) “Don’t want much, do they!” And Hermione says something like, “Well, it’s a very responsible position.” Also, right below that entry is:”Mediwizard” Which is apparently different that ‘Healer.’ The lexicon assumes (and I agree) that a Mediwizard might be more like a paramedic vs. healer/doctor. So…maybe Molly had/has the academics for it? We’ve no proof to the contrary. Interestingly, it seems that you can complete your Healer schooling while essentially in middle/high school. (Or secondary school, for the brits.) I wonder if there is more training after school that is offered/required?

      • http://about.me/erinwhite Erin White

        I think it’s possible that wizard mothers need to know a certain amount about healing the same way muggle mothers do – because they are mothers. I think it’s also possible that having just come from Grimauld Place, where Molly was leading the charge against dust, cobwebs, and magical household pests, it’s possible that Ginny witnessed “scourgify” a number of times, so it just popped into her head at the right moment.

  • Snatch The Snitch

    It’s funny how Hermione bashed the Quibbler when the Prophet is also putting out complete garbage. To be fair, I’m sure she understands both are ridiculous at this point. Quibbler > Prophet

    • thegiantsquid

      Yes, but Hermione likes order and official things. The Prophet is official and supposed to be THE news source. Though they’re being entirely awful about Harry and Dumbledore, I think Hermione still harbors this need for them to be right about other things because they’re THE Daily Prophet.

      • Hufflepug

        I think a large point of the Quibbler is to show how screwed up the Daily Prophet becomes, since a tabloid notorious for being faux news becomes the only source that reports about Voldemort’s return.

        • Snatch The Snitch

          Well put

          • Hufflepug

            Thanks! :)

      • Snatch The Snitch

        I think Hermione realizes that both are misinforming. She sees through the Prophet’s lies and I do agree with Hufflepug’s statement below; this is one reason Mr. Lovegood gets in trouble in DH. You make a good point, and I agree, that Hermione needs some kind of order of things based on facts. The Prophet used to be much more factual previously, but honestly, which source has more BS in it at this point? Hermione definitely knows whats up though she sees uses in reading the Prophet’s crap, and would rather read about worldly events and how it affects her and the ones she loves over nargles…

        • thegiantsquid

          Oh, I wasn’t trying to say that Hermione doesn’t know that the Prophet was basically nonsense, but that I think she’s hesitant to entirely surrender to that knowledge, and that deep down she has that need to separate “real” news and tabloids, regardless of their content. Clearly, later on she drops this, but I think that’s part of her character progression. She grows beyond needing to take things for what they are, like school books and newspapers, and starts making her own judgments. She still has a problem with the “right” and “wrong” way in HBP with the Prince’s Potions book, even though the written instructions are superior, she refuses to acknowledge them and asserts that the text is the correct way to make the potions.

          • Snatch The Snitch

            I agree although Hermione was somewhat right about those instructions in the HBP potions book being dangerous

          • thegiantsquid

            I think magic is inherently dangerous. The problem with the HBP’s book is that he did not intend anyone but himself to use it, so he provided no footnotes or instructions. With guidance, magic is less dangerous, but because Harry just used spells that he had no idea what they did, well, that’s just not very smart.
            I think most of the actually potion modifications were legitimate though, right?

          • Snatch The Snitch

            Definitely. No question Snape knew what he was doing and that Harry was stupid for using spells and not knowing their outcomes. You’re right. I do think a combination of that fact along with Hermione being somewhat jealous of being outperformed is why she doesn’t like Harry using it

          • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

            Agreed. Hermione’s driving factor for thinking the HBP’s book was dangerous was definitely the fact that she was outperformed. That, and the fact that the instructions weren’t ‘official’ (yet still achieved better results) combined with the fact that Harry got so much attention totally drove her nuts. It is only after the Sectumsempra spell that there is proof the book contains legitimately dangerous spells. Then, of course, Hermione can say ‘I told you so!’ Magic reminds me of many things in the muggle world that can be both dangerous and useful. Knives are useful to chop vegetables and slice sirloin, but obviously you shouldn’t wave them about willy-nilly or hand one to a three year old. Magic is the same way; it needs a skilled hand to control it and must be used with care. We hear the story of Luna’s mother actually dying from a backfiring curse in this very book. Magic is not something you mess around with and Harry should absolutely know that by now.

  • Claire Marie

    So just a fun thing I thought I would share – my copy of Order is actually bound upside down. I didn’t know for the longest time because I never took the book jacket off, but one day I did and went to open the book with the binding facing the right way and all of the print was upside down! So I feel extremely Lunaesque since the book appears to be upside down when I’m reading it. Anyone else have a copy like that or seen one before?

    • http://www.mugglenet.com/ Kat

      No, but that is very cool! I wish mine were upside down too :)

    • Snatch The Snitch

      Is it a 1st edition?

      • Claire Marie

        It’s a first American edition. I’m not British so I don’t have those book copies.

      • Claire Marie

        I did a little more research. I’m not a book collector so I didn’t know as much as I probably should have. It is a first American edition but it is not the first printing. It’s a 3rd printing of the first edition.

        • Snatch The Snitch

          I collect HP books as a hobby although im not majorly into it. If it was also a 1st print it could be worth around $70 depending on the condition. Yours is probably worth around $30 depending on the condition

  • Jane

    This is in relation to the previous episode review about whether Moody could see the boggart in its true form, and in reply to one of the commenters talking about quantum physics, you can argue it’s something like Schrödinger’s Cat in that the boggart can be both in its true form and someone’s fear at the same time until someone is looking at it.

    • Claire Marie

      I completely thought that Schrodinger’s Cat was where they were going with that comment! That’s how I imagined it too!

    • ArchdukeSeverus

      Also they were talking about Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, which establishes that with measuring something we are going to have an effect on something. I put some thought into this because the principle is taking into account that to measure something our current technology (including the human eye) has to bounce some time of particle of the particle or substance being measured to find out where or what something is, so by doing this they change the momentum or direction of the particle or object. So whether the boggart is effected when Moody looks at it is probably in relation to how Moody’s eye works. If it is some form of magic that can’t be explained by physics it could be a problem knowing if the boggart is effected. However it is possible that the way that Moody’s eye works could be that it recieves data from across the full spectrum of energy. So by this radiowaves could be bouncing off the boggart and being picked up by Moody’s eye like they would by a radio telescope looking at a star or whatnot. In this case I doubt that the Boggart would know that Moody was observing it as there is no way that it could know that the various energy waves it is giving off or that are bounced of it are being observed by another source.
      Another way the eye could work is by creating mini wormholes that allow visible light to pass through so that things behind walls could be observed. If this was true then the boggart would be able to know it is being observed and change.
      Of course all this is irrelevant if a boggart doesn’t have a true form but will appear differently to everyone unless it has chosen a form. Boggarts could be compared to the smell of pheromones which have a different smell for each person, except that in a boggarts case it has a different look to each person but when it is focused on a particular person it will chose a form to stick at. If this was true if Moody was observing the boggart in its resting state it would appear as his fear.

  • DolphinPatronus

    Just a quick note as I’m listening. You asked for parental opinions on Molly’s fear still being the death of her children. So as a parent I can say that personally I am constantly worrying about my son. My mind often goes to some scary places & I have to purposely make myself think happy thoughts to keep myself positive. (Maybe a boggart lives in my brain?) But I also find that I come by it naturally. I’m 37 & my mother still does the whole “call me when you get there” thing Michael mentioned. If I forget (& my memory is awful so I often do) she will call me & yell at me.

    • Silverdoe25

      I agree with this. I know Kat felt that Molly’s boggart might have been different if the war wasn’t going on, but I disagree. I think Molly fears harm coming to her family the most, but in the present climate, the boggart’s appearance shakes her so much that she isn’t able to perform the spell to get rid of it.

      • mollywobbles

        I have to agree that a mother worst fear is having something awful happen to your children. Ex- dreams about leaving your baby on the roof of the car when you are preparing for parenthood, this continues into their later years. Molly is really dealing with a loss of control here. Most of her children are of age now and that takes away the motherly control she has over certain parts of their lives. In this environment this would be scary for any parent. The older they are, the more freedom they have, the more you worry. She also voices another fear in this chapter when speaking to Lupin “and what’s going to happen if Arthur and I get killed, who’s going to look after Ron and Ginny?” I would argue that maybe on a normal day this would be Molly’s bogart something that stops her from caring for her family.

        • Hadas

          This is so astute. I never realized this and I think it makes such perfect sense.

    • http://about.me/erinwhite Erin White

      One thing that tells us how focused Molly is on the safety of her family is the magical clock at the Burrow. I believe at least half of the possible statuses of each member of the Weasley family are in some way dire – lost, prison, hospital, and let’s not forget “mortal peril”, are all represented. She’s a mom, and it’s a key component of her job to worry.

      • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

        That is extremely acurate. Molly is said to take the clock around with her in the next book. It is obviously something she relies on to know exactly what is going on with her family. This got me wondering…Is it ever explicitly stated how the clock was made, where it came from, or who made it? Are we supposed to assume Molly made it? It is such an interesting and curious object that I have always loved yet never really thought about.mwhy is it a large clock as opposed to a small, more portable, invention…more like a muggle cell phone…? Why don’t all wizarding homes have one of these! They seem super useful, especially during the war. Is it possible that after the weasley children get married and start having babies, that the clock just magically adds more hands with each members name? Or, is it more of a mechanical invention! How annoying would it be to have to keep adding hands after each weasley is born! They breed like gnomes! You’d never get a break… Perhaps Arthur tinkered with an old muggle clock and put some spells on it? I would love to talk more about this fascinating artifact’s origin. Anyone have some thoughts or theories?

        • http://about.me/erinwhite Erin White

          ROFL @ “they breed like gnomes” :D I think the first time we hear about the clock, it’s supposed to be a grandfather clock, but later we hear that Molly’s toting it around with her. So either JK lost some continuity, or we can assume that Molly magicked the clock to a tote-able size so she could always have it with her. I believe there is another clock in her house, but it was more chore/reminder related.

  • Elvis Gaunt

    Ron saw himself as a head boy among other things in the Mirror of Erised. Being made a prefect is definitely a step in that direction. We very clearly see that he loves the recognition he received. In the previous chapter he kept placing it all over his room. Even in the train compartment he looks at his reflection in the window glass with the badge pinned on to his robes. He has already considered using (abusing) the authority that comes the badge. But, what about the responsibility that comes with it? He doesn’t like it. He tells Harry that he is not Percy and does not like patrolling the train corridors. He has to be reminded by Hermione that they have to guide the first years mere hours after receiving the instructions. These are far from the ideal characteristics any kind of leader should have.

    On another note, he has saw himself as a house cup winning quidditch captain in the Mirror. Now that he has a broom he can get into the Gryffindor team and thus he has taken a step in that direction as well. Both in the same day!

    • Snatch The Snitch

      I think the fact that he doesn’t like the responisbility has to do with how he will be perceived by Fred and George..and possibley Ginny. That fact that he says he is not “like” Percy shows that he is scared of being viewed as another Percy. One example is when Hermione tells Ron to get Fred and George to stop experimenting on younger students; Ron hates the idea

      • Hufflepug

        Yeah, and to go off of that I think Ron is pretty conflicted. He wants to be this elusive “best” thing, but his definition of that is living up to his brothers, and he seems to try to live up to all of them in some way. A Quidditch captain like Charlie, an adventurer like Bill, a prefect like Percy, and a class clown like the twins. You can’t be everything and you can’t please everyone, so he can’t be fully proud of the prefect position even though it was something he wanted. With so many questions about why he got it instead of Harry, he’s probably also pretty insecure about whether or not he deserves it. It really takes Ron the whole series to become confident in his talents.

    • Silverdoe25

      After the discussion, I thought a lot more about Ron as prefect. Dumbledore is plotting and planning by this point. He does know that Ron and Hermione will be in the thick of things regardless. So perhaps Dumbledore named Ron prefect to help him develop some of the leadership abilities he knew Ron would need down the road.

  • MsCheeta1987

    About those names in the Quibbler, in the Dutch version, Doris Purkiss lives in Sansevieriastraat 18, Blinde Vlek. Sansevieria is a plant that is also known als “Mother in Law’s tongue.
    The translation of Blinde Vlek is blind spot, like a blind spot in a car, Sounds to me that this lady has a very large blind spot in terms of Sirius Black.

    Our translator usually is very good in names but sometimes makes an error due to the fact that he didn’t know the future books back in the day. When Luna and her father were mentioned in GoF he already translated them to “Berkemeier” but when Luna was introduced in OotP he changed her surname to Leeflang, which translated back to English means “lives long”

    A funny fact that has nothing to do with this chapter, He gave Blaise Zabini a girl’s name back in Philosopher’s Stone and had to change it to a proper boy’s name in Halfblood Prince.

  • http://about.me/erinwhite Erin White

    What if the criteria for being made a prefect at Hogwarts isn’t what we think it is? It may have nothing to do with staying out of trouble, or getting good grades. The criteria might have everything to do with selecting a student who personifies the general traits of their house.

    Draco probably does do well at his lessons, but maybe he was chosen as prefect because he is best in his year at being a sly and cunning Slytherin. After all their adventures thus far in the series, it could be argued that Hermione and Ron are the best at being Gryffindors. They have both proven their courage, and both yearn after glory a bit. This is demonstrated by Ron’s vision in the Mirror of Erised, and by Hermione’s constant academic heroics.

    It might sound like sacrilege to say that in their year, Ron is better at being a Gryffindor than Harry is, but let’s remember that Harry is carrying around a slice of Slytherin in his head. I think we can all agree that the horcrux definitely has its effect on his behavior, and it may have been one of Dumbledore’s key considerations in making prefect decisions.

    It is true that the prefect appointments did put Harry in a position of isolation without his two best friends. However, this left him mentally available to forge and deepen his relationships with other students, especially Neville and Luna. Once the DA began to meet, Harry had the opportunity to be seen standing on his own, outside the trio. He demonstrated that he was a leader, helping others to achieve a level of magical mastery that would serve them all well in the near future. Many of the DA became key allies fighting on Harry’s side during the Battle of Hogwarts. I am not suggesting that Dumbledore planned it this way, but allowing Harry to grow without the constant companionship of Hermione and Ron was really good for him and his future success.

    • Snatch The Snitch

      Interesting interpretation; I really like it! The more I think about the more it makes sense.

  • Hufflepug

    I liked last week’s comment about boggarts using defense mechanisms and am now wondering if thestrals’ invisibility is something similar. In GoF there was the debate about why Harry couldn’t see them and most people seemed to settle on the idea that they had to fully accept the death. It seems like a strange rule, but a defense mechanism could explain it. Perhaps thestrals, which are hideous creatures that would make easy targets because people would react with fear and potentially violence, are just naturally more trusting of those who have seen the horrors of death and grieved about it because they may be less likely to kill and more likely to empathize, so they’re willing to come out of their invisibility to them. If so, I’m sure Voldemort and other murderers/sociopaths wouldn’t be able to see them because they would feel no remorse in killing even after having seen a death. Of course this wouldn’t be true for everyone. Most people who have had a loved one die understand the grief just as well, but I’m sure seeing the death is even harder and more emotionally jarring because that image will always be there. (If this was already brought up in GoF, sorry! I just marathoned basically that entire book to catch up and may have forgotten a few things along the way).

  • Jane

    This might be a bit of a stretch, but when they are in Grimmauld Place and about to leave, Mrs Weasley says “…oh, for heaven’s sake Sirius, Dumbledore said no!’…. Well of your own head be it!” Could this be forshadowing to Sirius’ death at the end of the book? There is the similarity between the recklessness in this scene and the scene at the end of the book and both relate to harry and his happiness/wellbeing in mind.

    Thestrals:
    In the book, the thestrals are described as reptilian/dragonish, and i wonder if there is a chance that Harry can speak to them in a way through parseltongue. Or whether they are somehow related to dementors sue to their similar description”

    “completely fleshless, their black coats clinging to their skeletons… every bone was visible…pupil-less eyes…” (Thestrals)

    “…Hand protruding from the cloak… greyish, slimey-looking and scabbed…” “…where there should have been eyes, there was only thin, grey, scabbed skin, stretched blankly over empty sockets…” (dementors)

    Questions for next week:
    In the next chapter it is the second time that we meet Umbridge and this time we see her with her pink costuming instead of the black ministerial robes. In colour psychology, the colour pink represents nurturing, love and hope, something which completely contrasts with Umbridge’s characterisation. So is this colour choice intentional in Jo’s part and is there other scenes in which this technique is used e.g. house colours, Dumbledore’s clothing (I might add this as a topic on the forums soon)

    And in the sorting hat song, the hat- or rather Jo- describes Hufflepufffs as “…said Hufflepuff, ‘i’ll teach the lot, and treat them just the same… she took the rest, and taught them all she knew” Everyone knows that in various interviews, that Jo has said how she loves Hufflepuffs, and yet she describes them in this way without a defining characteristic unlike the other houses:
    Slytherin- purest ancestry
    Ravenclaw- intelligence
    Gryffindor- brave deeds to their name
    Just what is up with this??

  • I Snitched the Snatch… Wait,

    Foreshadowing is popular in Harry Potter but sometimes Jo makes false leads, I thought Dumbledore was the half blood prince when I was halfway through the book. It’s quite common for Authors to put false leads or go off on tandems in their books, by the time Dumbledore is dead, it’s been so long that we don’t even care who the half blood prince is!

  • AccioPotassium!

    From interview information given by the Queen herself, JK Rowling has stated that Luna Lovegood, and Pansy Parkinson are considered ant-Hermione’s in her writing of our beloved book series. My question for this week is. Who is the biggest ant-Hermione of the two mentioned supporting female characters? Is it Luna Lovegood? The girl who seems to believe in ten impossible things before breakfast, and seems to throw away all logical reasoning in her beliefs? Or is it Pansy Parkinson? The girl who believes in Pure-blood supremacy, and is a school bully at Hogwarts.

    • Hufflepug

      Pansy Parkinson is the bigger anti-Hermione just because her differences from Hermione (Pansy is selfish, a bully, and a coward) contrast from many of Hermione’s Gryffindor traits, which are slightly more important to her than her Ravenclaw traits that Luna contrasts from. It’s all summed up in that quote from book 1: “Books! And cleverness! There are more important things – friendship and bravery.”

    • Snatch The Snitch

      Luna and Hermione have more similar qualities, for example bravery and loyalty. Is Pansy loyal to Malfoy? Yes, however I doubt she would do the same thing for Malfoy Luna has done for Harry when faced with extreme danger. Lets not forget Luna is risking her life for people not even her house! Compared to Pansy being in Slytherin with Malfoy. Luna also seems to be the odd one out at first which is similar to Hermione in the beginning, until their friends get to know them. Also, they are both pretty intelligent albiet in very contrasting ways. Aside from Pansy being a prefect i’m not sure if she shares anything with Hermione. I guess this means she’s somewhat intelligent? Although Ron was a prefect too so we can’t base anything off of it. Eitherway, at the core is where they differ most: Pansy believes in pure-blood and money status, where Hermione and Luna know what really matters in life. No matter what facts Hermione and Luna disagree on they have more in common then you’d think

      • AccioPotassium!

        I would have to agree with you on this particular issue over my question. Pansy Parkinson seems to have the most striking differences compared to Hermione’s persona. There are a couple similarities between the two prefects, but not as numerous as Miss Lovegood is comparable with Hermione. I do think JK Rowling designed Luna Lovegood’s character for the purpose of being a contrast to Hermione Granger’s reasoning over the current state of the wizarding world, and while Miss Parkinson’s character purpose may just be a need for a female antagonist at Hogwarts. So maybe in a literary sense Luna is the true anti-Hermione.

  • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

    Something I thought of durring my re-reading of the chapter that the hosts didn’t mention is: Mad-Eye Moody. He arrives at Platform 9 3/4 with a bowler hat attempting to cover his head/face/eye. I know that they have just traveled by foot through muggle London, but I can’t help but think that someone (like a student) would recognize Moody despite the hat. Moody, via Lil’ Crouch, taught for the entire previous year. Then, even more suspiciously, was discovered to be under polyjuice as Lil’ Crouch. This info did not excape student’s knowledge, since we see Dean Thomas tell Umbridge later in this book something like, “well, he (Moody as Crouch) turned out to be a mad man, didn’t he?” Anyway, I just thought it was odd that no one says anything to him on the platform, like, ‘hey, how are you? are you feeling better now that you are out of the trunk?!” No one says anything to him. We don’t even get the petrified-first-year-poking-his-friend-and-gesturing-toward-Moody thing that we usually get in this situations. Thoughts?

    • Elvis Gaunt

      That’s a really good point. Maybe the students kept away from him out of fear. But what about Professor Lupin. He was popular among students. At least some of them should have spoken to him or thought that it was cool that Harry, Hermione and the Weasleys were hanging out with these two really interesting former professors.

      • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

        Yes, Lupin too! Obviously he has a less criminally-involved past than Moody and his ‘Lil’ Crouch problem’, but I would think that people would recgonize him too. We never see any other ex-teachers on the platform, in fact Lupin, I think, is the only other teacher we *ever* see on the Platform, (during his arrival in PoA.) This should have gotten a bigger reaction from the student body. It’s weird, because they are trying to act naturally and they bring the most conspicuous people, (not to mention Sirius in dog form!) to the Platform. Even if we wouldn’t have seen out right reactions of “oh my word! professor lupin?! proffesor moody?! what in the name of merlin are YOU both doing here?!?!” we should still see pointing and nudging of friends and hear whispers in the train corridors. I *am* surprised that Lucius doesn’t mention it to Draco who would then mention it to Harry & Co in addition to the ‘dogging’ comment. I can see him saying something like, “You’re still hanging around that old nutter?! [insert werewolf joke/insult] etc. etc. etc.” Breaking it down to a book level, it would have made the story evvvvveeennnn looonnnggeerrr and it would have probably detracted from the scene, but y’know…still…

        • Hufflepug

          Also… did no one freak out when they saw the Grim on the platform? I know divination is a joke to most of the students, but I can only imagine what Lavender and Parvati were thinking haha.

          • Claire Marie

            I would doubt that Sirius running around and wagging his tail would qualify as the grim. I’m sure Lavender and Parvati were whispering as usual but I think everyone else would have just seen Sirius as a dog.

          • Hufflepug

            I can’t believe I didn’t think of how excited he was acting! He’s just a happy Grim, haha.

  • Elvis Gaunt

    Harry saw the thestrals reflected in Luna’s eyes. So, she is definitely not imagining them. Why is Harry still uncertain then. Also, if he had told Hermione about them, she would have guessed what they were in an instant.

    • Snatch The Snitch

      Always wondered why he never told Hermione. She would be my go-to person for any questions

    • http://rebeccatheravenclaw.tumblr.com RebeccaTheRavenclaw

      The phrasing for this was always weird to me. Yeah, they are reflected in her eyes okay, so…does that mean there is *not* a reflection in anyone else’s eyes who can’t see the thestrals? Maybe it’s just part of the magic, but I always wondered why the reflection was so important. Like, why can’t the horses be reflected in Ron’s eyes? Why can’t there be a reflection and still have the person unable to see them…? I mean, the only people who could see the reflection, are people who can see the thestrals so it’s kind of pointless? Or am I missing something here…??

  • CoskiNation

    In response to Kat’s questioning why Molly’s Boggart was so extreme with showing the deaths: As a mother of a toddler boy I can completely understand. Yes mom’s generally have consistent worry over their child’s safety and future however many of us have to fight it with logic instead of giving in and becoming overbearing and too protective. However to take it a step further, I can completely understand why Molly’s Boggart went so extreme to the deaths of her children. She had seen tragedy and that changes everything. When my son was 8 months old my youngest sibling tragically drowned in a cave on an island river. From that point on I would say that I was mentally traumatized with dread and fear for my son’s life. My mind would constantly drift to the most awful imaginings and scenarios. Since then I have greatly healed and worked very hard to logically stay positive and strong. However, that wound is something that is so easily ripped open. I have been advised by wise older people in my life that it is something that will always be easily ripped open for the rest of my life. So for Molly, she has seen tragedy in her own family, she has been dreading this war coming back and quickly getting to the point where she will be stuck at level 10 with fear and dread. She is scarred, traumatized and tightly wound about all the members of her family being off in various locations away from her safe keeping. (Which is perfectly manifested by that genius clock JKR created and how it eventually is stuck in the last book represents Molly’s heightened, persistent fear and dread. She is stuck like the clock!) Obligatory Genius Moment for reals!

  • Snatch The Snitch

    I have a new theory related to the question of the week, but i’ll post it here because there is always more responses. I don’t think the houses are stereotyped; I think the Sorting Hat is just being biased. Lets think about it…most of the d-bags turn up in Slytherin but the hat was Gryffindor’s, and Gryffindor and Slytherin didn’t get along. So every time someone who is a complete *** puts the hat on it just sorts them to be with the rest of their kind. Little does the Sorting Hat know that by doing this he put Voldemort and all of his followers into the same house, thus setting the whole series into motion!!!!!!!!!!! The Sorting Hat is the mastermind behind the whole series!!!!!!!! The damn hat!

    • Dan Sharp

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t Godric and Salazar “the best of friends”? At least up till Slytherin stormed out of the school in a huff. The Sorting Hat must have been created before that to put a bit of Slytherin’s personality in it.

      • Snatch The Snitch

        They were but, I mean after their falling out. The Sorting Hat can think for itself though. It knows whats up

  • Sycamore Combustion

    Scourgify is a basic spell that any trained witch and wizard can use to clean up a mess and yet, at Hogwarts, the Squibb gets the job. Are things this dire that such tasks are the only recourse for not so non-magical folk?

    To be fairer, recalling, my own room as a muggle child, probably most non-Hermione types didn’t clean up so well at home, either.

    Even if the “Squibb” condition is rarer than invisibility cloaks, what is at stake is the dignity of the magical person-and they have to be magical; otherwise, they would be muggle.

  • Luna LoveDuck

    I really like how you guys kept pointing out the fact that Harry was really out of his element here. He’s without Ron and Hermione on the train, he’s shocked to find that Hagrid is gone, and then the thestrals make him question his very sanity. This is one of the great things about this book, that it strips away so much of Harry’s character and then we have to see him still try to cope. I have to say that John Granger (The Hogwarts Professor) really opened my eyes by pointing out how a lot of this has to do with alchemical structure in the storytelling. I’m probably butchering the specifics here, but basically book 5 is the black stage of the alchemical process, where a base metal or substance is stripped down to its essence so that it can be refined into something pure. Harry has already had so much taken away from him at this point in the book. Soon he’ll also lose Quidditch and his notions that his father was a great guy, and both of those ideas were really at the core of how Harry defined himself. Harry has to go through all of this leading up to the loss at the end, so that in the next book he can be refined, stronger than before and ready to face his challenges. This book is the black stage of alchemy (and all about Sirius Black), and the next book is the white stage (and all about Albums, which is Latin for white). Please forgive me if I misspoke on any of these details! It’s been a while since I read any of John Granger’s stuff, but this re-read is the perfect chance to review, cuz it fits so perfectly.

  • QuibblerKat

    I wonder if perhaps the reason Ron was made prefect was another way to “protect” Harry — we know that Seamus was against Harry for a time, so maybe Dumbledore chose Ron as the only safe choice for male prefect. Despite their arguments, Ron isn’t going to turn Harry in for sneaking off and doing whatever else he has to do for the overall mission of the series.

  • GinnyWeasley002

    Back to Molly’s Boggart, I’ve got to say one thing: Yes, I agree with Kat in that the most logical thing for Molly to fear, without a war on the doorstep, would be that her children would be harmed, but not that she would immediately jump to “death”. However, we must recall is that the boggart shows the WORST FEAR of the viewer. Not just the most prominent fear in their mind, which in Molly’s case would clearly be something like Fred and George getting splynched while apparating everywhere, Charlie getting attacked by dragons, etc. Any of those could be the most prominent fear, the one that she is currently, consciously thinking of. Her WORST FEAR, though, her deepest, darkest, most horrifying fear, is that her family is killed. As members of the previous Order and as “blood traitors,” it is just one logical step from there that her family would be killed by dark wizards, for revenge.