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The first episode of MuggleNet's new podcast, Alohomora! is about to be released. At the end of the show, I came up with a question and addressed the entire community here. We plan to do this at the end of every show, and to share the greatest responses we get here at the start of each new episode. Now - let's have a chat.

Consider for a moment the first few chapters of Philosopher's Stone. Vernon tries in vain to keep the magic away that is constantly trying to invade his family. These dramatic scenes show just how outmatched a Muggle is when a person of magic wants something

We know by the end of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows that Jo is not only leading us to consider a blending of the four rival Houses of Hogwarts, but also of pure blood magic folk and Muggle-borns. To what extent is the series also pushing for a union between all types of humans - magic and Muggle, and do we think - considering the extreme difference between the two groups in terms of raw power - peace and coexistence could every really be achieved?

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Posted by Noah Fried on April 24 2012 09:46 AM (53 Comments)


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I think that there could only be limited muggle-magic connections, because few muggles have that kind of acceptance, and few magical people could ever accept muggles as equals. The wizards believing the whole wizards-are-better-than-house-elves-and-goblins-and-every-other-magical-creature thing, which is totally not true, but which some wizards firmly believed. As for the muggles, the opposition would mainly be from people like the Dursleys and those who initiated the witch burnings. There could only be limited peaceful connection between the two. Take the muggle-borns for example. There are some people like the Granger parents, who accepted the community and got on with it well, or the Evans parents, who were the same. Then theres Petunia, who just couldn't stand it, probably out of some longing for being "special" like Lily. So, in conclusion, there could never be a totally peaceful connection between the whole of the two societies, because there would be opposition as well as acceptance on both sides.
- Padfoot713 on April 24 2012 02:39 PM



Padfoot713 makes a good point. I also think it would basically just be difficult to see a full integration of the societies, because as it's explained Muggle technology 'goes haywire' around too much magic. The cultures are so vastly different it sort of seems that it would parallel the invasion of the colonists on the Native Americans, though it's unclear which side would necessarily be which. There is also the terrifying scientific implications of wizarding genetics and the inevitable search to discover and replicate the "magic gene" to give Muggles wizarding abilities. It's true wizards generally have more power, but Muggles have the numbers, so there is the possibility of wizards being subjugated and tested as mutants of sorts. Muggles aren't necessarily helpless against wizards-Arthur Weasley was baffled by "firelegs" and "plumbles", and he's supposed to know more about Muggle culture than the average wizard; the ignorance would definitely work against wizards, and if peaceful communication and cooperation couldn't be achieved then violence could quickly escalate. I think the current system with a light crossover is probably safest for both sides.
- hprebel311 on April 24 2012 03:04 PM



A large part of wizard-muggle negotioations would be to convince the muggles that magic really exists. And this is not only about people like Vernon Dursley! Because let's be honest: As much as we love Harry's world - if you met someone who actually claimed to be part of it, you wouldn't believe them, and for good reasons! We've got to keep in mind that we are not at all narrow-minded but absolutely right in being extremely sceptical about these things, considering how many people make a fortune by claiming to be mediums/psychics/fortune tellers/magical healers and so on. It's not that we've never heard of magic - it's just that every person who has ever claimed to have magical abilities and submitted themselves to scientific scrutiny has turned out to be a fraud. So if the real wizards and witches were to come out into the muggle world, they would have to stand up to tests that prove beyond doubt that they really can do magic.
My question to you is: How would you devise a test that shows that there is real magic at work and that excludes the possibility of cheating to an extend that it would convince you and every scientist in the world?
The James Randi Educational Foundation, an organisation that regularly exposes fraudulent pseudo-magicans, might be a good place to turn to, have a look at their procedure here: http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
- SilverPhoenix on April 24 2012 04:31 PM



It's an interesting thing to consider, a union between magic and non-magic folk, however I believe that this has to some extent been shown in the books already - squibs being from magical families but not being magical themselves - the only difference between them and a muggle is that they are aware of the existence of magical folk.

There were references to Wendelin the Weird, who was repeatedly caught by muggles to be burnt as a witch - the implication is that other witches were also caught, perhaps not being so lucky, and I would suggest that sometimes the sheer number of muggles could offset any advantage that could be gained by being able to use magic.

I'd also like to mention Godric's Hollow, where both muggles and wizarding folk lived together, which at least on the part of the magical folk, would require some sort of either ambivalence or liking for muggles, and I seem to recall Godrics Hollow having been around for a long time.

The muggle prime minister was also aware of the wizarding world, one of very few muggles unrelated to a witch or wizard to have this knowledge, and while he may have been perhaps exasperated or worried about the events that may be related to the wizarding world and would perhaps rather be in a state of ignorance, there was nothing mentioned to suggest that he disliked the wizarding world as people, or held any enmity against them.

Of course, while there are those from both the wizarding world and muggles who have the capacity for tolerance, or at least a live and let live attitude, there were obviously plenty of others who really have a passionate dislike for muggles or wizarding folk; most notably the Dursleys in the muggle world, and the supporters of Voldemort who agreed with his policy regarding muggles and mudbloods.

Regardless of whether a person is a muggle or of the wizarding world, each person has their own opinion, character and prejudices, which will always mean that at the very least there would be a degree of conflict between muggles and wizarding folk, unless there was an overwhelming majority on both sides which would be able to suppress antagonism between the two.
- Snodge on April 24 2012 04:47 PM



I think a very important point to consider is what the societies would gain from a coexistance. I can see that the magical world would gain ideas for new spells, potions, and so forth. But the muggle world would have less to gain. Its not like the muffles will gain an ability to do magic, and although they may have access to magical medical treatments, little else would likely change for them. When you look at how Arthur Weasley tweaked muggle objects (for example the car) I can see other instances where muggle technology could be magically altered (maybe the Internet?).

But overall, I don't necessarily see that there would be much difference. Perhaps I am not thinking big enough, but I think the two world would just end up living in the same areas, but not have much over lap in other parts of their lives. I see it as similar to when you meet someone that you have almost nothing in common with. The more adventurous would ask questions about their lives and become friends, but I think most people would have polite small talk and then forget about it (based onthe fact that most people are innately selfcentered).

So I do think they could all live together relativelly peacefully, but I don't see it bring about much change or collaboration.
- murf on April 24 2012 07:44 PM



At the end of Deathly Hallows, it was obvious that the four houses weren't as vehemently opposed to each other as they had been during Harry's time at school. It was also apparent that purebloods were becoming a thing of the past as witches and wizards married muggle-borns and halfbloods. In the Epilogue, Ron even jokes to one of his children that their grandpa would never forgive them if they married a pureblood. The Weasleys always were more open-minded about these things, but at the same time, this still demonstrates the decline of the pureblood.

Despite all these changes, I don't think that a full blend of muggles and magical people would be possible. It's emphasized throughout the series how separate the two worlds are kept, and how carefully the wizards work to keep the worlds separate. The only muggle who is openly told about the wizarding world is the muggle Prime Minister. Other muggles, when exposed to the wizarding world, are usually obligated--the exception being muggle parents of muggle-born wizards.

At one point, it is suggested that it's best to keep the two worlds separate, because if the muggles knew about magic, they would harass wizards and witches for magical solutions to all their problems. That idea makes it clear that witches and wizards do not want their societies to be fully mixed together. I would also suggest that, given the history of wizard and muggle relationships, wizards would not be eager to reveal themselves to muggles. One of the passages we see Harry studying is for the History of Magic class, and it discusses the burning of witches or wizards at the stake.

Given all these factors, I think that the wizarding world would become less and less divided, to the point that House didn't matter too much, and blood status didn't matter except to the most old-fashioned of wizards. However, I doubt that the wizarding world would ever reach a point where they would want to live openly among the muggles. I would guess that no matter how unified the wizarding world at large became, the wizarding world would still remain as separate as possible from the muggle world. Both worlds would probably continue to exist as we saw them in the Harry Potter books.
- MagicalMechelle on April 24 2012 11:02 PM



i really believe there was no real agreement between muggle and wizard forces after the war, more like a meeting like the one we saw in 6 with the prime minister and the minister for magic. i think Kingsley told the prime minister about the war and how it ended and then everything kind of mellowed out and wizards could go out and fit in with society better. i think that the 4 houses still did have a little competition between them (friendly competition of course) and i would like to think that there was no divide between the houses and that they could mingle, without having the whole oh but your in slytherin kind of thing.
- MudbloodAndProud on April 25 2012 01:48 AM



My opinion is that it would be hard to connect Muggles and magic folk. In the second book Ron attempts to call Harry on what he calls a 'fellytone', and it kind of ends disastrously. Another example would be the meeting of the Prime Minister and the Minister of Magic. That was said to be one of JKR's favourite scenes - though it was a shame that they cut it out in the movie. But I digress. In that scene it was almost blindingly obvious that Muggles and magic folk could not coexist. That would only lead to chaos. There would be some kind of revolution over who was better - Muggles had technology, but magic folk had...well, magic. This would lead to war.

I think the two worlds are right to be separated, and should stay that way.
- cloverlover on April 25 2012 03:03 AM



Let me start by saying this: I think the reason that we all love Harry's world, the wizarding world, is that it ISN'T our world. We love the idea of somewhere to escape to that is completely different. When we go there in the books not only is it like entering another world, it's like entering another time.

There are things in the muggle world that we take for granted every day such as elctricity, the post(mail) system, technology, etc. As fascinating as we find the magic solutions to these common problems, wizards equally find muggle solutions just as fascinating. Mr. Weasley is the most obvious case of a wizard who is in awe of muggle "stuff" but even Hagrid shows that he recognizes the great lengths that muggles go to since they have no magical solutions to everyday things.

I know there are those in the wizarding world (Malfoys/ Blacks-sans Sirius) who have an obvious disdain for muggles but we see early on that there are muggles who ARE aware of the wizarding world (the Dursleys) and share an equal dislike of them. I would say education is always the key to stopping ignorance but the statute of secrecy really prevents that. Hogwarts offers Muggle Studies but it is not a required course and maybe it should be.

Finally, I will close with this: I believe that the problem will continue to get better as time goes on for one simple reason. As time goes on more and more wizards/witches will have to find mates in the muggle community as lots of the "old wizard familys" are dying out. This can't help but make the problem better. There will always be those select few who will turn up their noses at "dirty blood" and would rather have their family line die out than consort with muggles. And there will always be some muggles who wouldn't ever consider being with "one of those wizarding types" simply out of fear or ignorance. In the end though, just like in Harry's story, love will win out and is a magic stronger than any biases people, wizard and muggle alike, may have.
- PadfootsPup on April 25 2012 08:37 AM



This is beginning to sound like the X-Men. With the mutants=wizards. The societies are too vastly different to enjoy peaceful harmony any time soon.

Wizards have a history of subjugating House Elfs, Centaurs, Goblins and half-bloods. Muggles have just as much history of prejudice and inequality. Both sides are also quite powerful and capable of immense destruction. A melding of the two would only result in the kinds of wars and strife we read about in our daily news - or X-Men comics.
- AurorFlight104 on April 25 2012 12:46 PM



This is tricky but I think Hagrid said it best in the beginning of book 1. If muggles knew of the existence of wizards, they would probably be badgering them all the time for a quick and easy solution to all of their problems! I know I would!

I also don't see it happening because people in our world tend to be slow to accept change. Look at how long people have been arguing for and against things like gay marriage. There will always be a group of stuffy old codgers (at least that's how I see them!) who only care about how things were back in "their day." It would be such a culture shock to introduce magic to the muggle world that I don't see it happening peacefully or smoothly.
- HermioneDanger on April 25 2012 11:41 PM



Jo uses logic to a great extent in her writing and prides herself on having the events of the books make logical sense. It is reasonable for her to show the desire and need for the pure-bloods and Muggleborns to cooperate and be peaceful amongst one another, for the sake of their own survival. It would, perhaps, also be wonderful for the two communities (Muggle and Wizard) to co-exist peacefully. We see this happening in the healthier Muggle Born families where the Muggles seem to really see the use of their Wizard children and take pride in them (Hermione's parents and Lilly Evans parents), but it is on a small scale and does not materialize to communal situations.

I don't think Jo is trying to send a message that the Muggle and Wizard worlds could live "at peace" with one another. It simply isn't logical. There will, sadly, always be power hungry Wizards who want to rule and dominate Muggles and Muggles who will want to subdue and pervert Magic for their own selfish ambitions.
- Hufflepuff25 on April 26 2012 10:39 AM



Everyone in the comments before me have made excellent pionts; I exspecially liked AurorFlight104's. Everyone has brought up the obvious, evident, and massive differences between the muggle and the wizarding worlds. However, I would like point out the simalarities between the two.

The main one is that they are both human; simple as that. And there is a simple human need to be nowticed more, even considered "better" than their fellow human being.

Another may be that muggles and wizards alike are on the top of their perspective "food chians", if you will. Muggles have had the problem of slavery and segragation. This was only solved, in America, by the Civil War and the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s. Wizards have the same situation with ALL other magical creatures: the enslavement of house elvees, keeping centaures in a classification of "less than human itelligence", and not granting gobling the right to carry a want (which in itself is a huge controvercy).

So, to my point, no I do not think that the two worlds could coexistence peasefully, because each is much to used to having their own power. If the two worlds tried to mingle it would just end in tragity.
- WannaBeWeasley on April 26 2012 03:31 PM



This question reminds me of a thought I had throughout the books. It seems like the Muggle world is basically at the mercy of the wizarding world. Wizards have the power to kill with one spell, wipe/ alter your memory, disturb technology, turn invisible, etc. If the wizarding world, as a whole, was ever pushed far enough they have everything they need to destroy Muggle society both from the outside and from within.

So, if Muggles and wizards tried to integrate their worlds and came into conflict, it would be disastrous. Since, literally, the only advantage Muggles have is numbers (as I assume wizards would be smart enough to try to learn SOMETHING about Muggle society before they reveal themselves). Basically, for me, I don't think its impossible for the two societies to join but it would have to be a slow process and the wizards would have to already be very patient and accepting of Muggles.
- LumosShadow on April 27 2012 09:03 PM



Firstly, I would like to state that I clearly took this question too seriously.

I believe there is the potential for both wizards and muggles to coexist peacefully in the future. But history has shown that this will not be an easy feat, nor will it lead to a utopian society.

Many of the previous comments note that in the books there exists prejudice on both sides. We know that the International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy was created to protect wizards from persecution and harassment from muggles. We can even take real life examples (i.e. the Salem Witch Trials) to show that "magic" has often been associated with devil worship. But the books also show that wizards have just as much prejudice. Voldemort's whole campaign is easily synonymous with Hitler's "cleansing" of the races. Changes in viewpoints would have to occur on both sides before wizards and muggles could live together peacefully.

However, history shows that you cannot always solve prejudice through legislation. The US Constitution’s 15th Amendment (passed in 1870) disallowed restriction from voting based upon race. However, state’s continued to find ways to prevent African American’s from voting for nearly 100 years. Additionally, despite legislation (the Equal Pay Act of 1963) stating that men and women must be paid equal wages for the same work, there continues to be a disparity in wages. Therefore, we cannot force coexistence between wizards and muggles via legislation.

History also shows we cannot necessarily use science as a means to show that wizards and muggles are biologically the same. Craniometry—which some people have erroneously used to determine intelligence by measuring cranial capacity—has been used to both support and deny racial equality. Additionally, there is the millennia-old debate between religion and science.

I believe the only way for wizards and muggles to live peacefully will be through education. Rowling does not give much information about what is taught in Muggle Studies at Hogwarts, but we know that many wizards probably have a skewed or misinformed idea of real muggle life (i.e. Arthur Weasley). We also know that most of the muggles who know of the existence of magic are just as much uninformed (i.e. Vernon Dursley). If people don’t have an understanding of a culture, how can they make informed opinions about it?

What history has ultimately shown is that there will always be extremists—people who will never change their viewpoint no matter what. But the majority of people do have moderate viewpoints. If these people are adequately educated about the other’s culture, then the two groups could potentially live together peacefully. Of course, this is all hypothetical!
- AnthroBug on April 27 2012 10:41 PM



First let me address here the claim that magic and muggle are no competition with each other. True, at this point in history, it seems mere muggles are no match for the magical community; however, as humans have, sometimes regrettably, proven over time, muggles are quite adept at adapting. As the weakest creatures known to existence, man should have become extinct at the hands of animals with greater innate talents and skills (or to use your terminology ‘raw power’) than they, and yet they have not only survived, but triumphed over such creatures. If the muggle population had their fair chance, meaning if they’re given the knowledge of and ability to study, the magical world, I daresay they’d come up with a worthy form of competitive power. When evolution teaches adaptation, it becomes second nature, and a raw power within itself. The wizarding community has the upper hand, nay, the power of secrecy.

That being said, I don’t believe true peace could ever be achieved. Magical will always be guarded, muggle will always be vying for magic, and it will become a source of tension. Now if there was some kind of liaison office that worked with muggles and magic, somewhere muggles could go to ‘study’ or reasonable have access to magic as a resource, then I think coexistence might be possible. It is human nature, unfortunately, to battle one another (physically or otherwise), normal to have life without peace. We will always war over money, religion, politics, beliefs, sex, power, magic. If there were peace in the world, there would be a war over who has the best peace, or actual peace, or somebody would try to impose their peace on another.
So in summary, coexisting the magic and muggle would require change and sacrifice on both sides, which, if it can possibly be achieved, might set the tone for at least civil coexistence.
- MidnightCrimson on April 27 2012 11:34 PM



For anyone who's interested in exploring this topic further be sure to check out the James Potter fanfiction by G. Norman Lippert. His series is about the next generation of Hogwarts students and very well done. A major plot of the stories surrounds the Progressive Element, a group seeking the end of the Statute of Secrecy. My personal belief is that there could never be true equality between the magical community and muggles. With muggles forced into the role as second class citizens there would be little benefit to either group.
- KnightStorm16158 on April 28 2012 08:11 AM



I believe that a connection between muggles and wizards is highly unlikely, and it has nothing to do with being a witch or a wizard or being a muggle, it's about being human.
We see all through history and even in todays' news that humans have the inevitable habit of fearing what they don't know or have bad history. you can compare wizards' dislike to muggles to the prejudice people have against Arabs. Like wizards most western people dislike Arabs for acts like the 9/11 attacks; or, take for example Israel: for years the oppressed Palestinians attacked Israel so they could have their own country in the borders of Palestine, and in doing so created a prejudice among some of the Israeli people that all Arabs living in Israel are terrorists, even those not living over the green borders (and I'm sorry to say that I know a person like that)
on the other hand, muggles will have greater trouble accepting wizards, for as history show us, there was always a fear of the unknown and magic is a big part of that. While I'm saying that there will be no dunking like it was in the old days (for more info go to one of Prof. Bin's lectures) but there is a thirst of knowlege and power that can hurt the subject of that perticular power. We see it all the time in Sci-Fi films, and alien comes down to earth to bring peace and is immediately probed and scanned. think what will happen to the first witch or wizard that says "I'm a wizard/witch": s/he will be put in a super secret military cell that is way out of sunlight will be taken blood samples from and hooked up to electrode just so people will know how magic works.
So in summary, I think that the co-opperation of muggles and wizards, as the curoption of human soul will deny that to the extent of the beginning of Armagedon!
- Zound on April 28 2012 10:00 AM



This is a great question to consider. I personally do not think that magic and muggle will be able to coexist. If the muggle world were to discover that magic existed, they might be fearful of them, as in the example of the Dursleys. Especially with everthing that happened in the later books with Voldemort and how his actions began to not only affect those of magic, but also the muggle world. For example, in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, the story opens with Fudge confronting the Prime Minister, because Voldemort has began to terrorize the muggle world. There is an obvious tension between the two, with the Prime Minister accusing Fudge of being a irresponsible Minister. At this point, the magic world has provided a bad first impression to those few muggles who know that magic exists. The muggle world would not want to put themselves in more danger by associating themselves with magic. Who is to say that another Voldemort could not arise in the future? The muggle world would probably want to keep themselves separated from any sort of danger. Plus, if there were people who would want both worlds to coexist, there would be those select few who would be solely against it. This can cause a sort of "war" to begin to form, which would really not benefit anyone. The union of both the magic world and the muggle world would probably cause more problems that it would benefit.
- softballnt on April 28 2012 01:19 PM



If there were to be coexistence, it would probably take a considerable amount of time. Even today there's still inequalities between groups, and introducing muggles connecting with wizards will probably just add to the whole massive issue of inequalities, differences, misunderstandings, etc. I do believe it's possible for good to come out of it, but I'm also thinking it would be very controversial if nearly all the witches and wizards tried to do it. Not only would you have muggle governments investigating this massive phenomenon, but you'd also probably have a rise in religious reasoning with the whole witchcraft thing. It could probably get ugly and violent and to the point where it wouldn't work fully. Of course, there will be people who would be open-minded to the idea on both sides, but as for overall, you will always have people who will be against it. So, I would say that a true coexistence would probably not be possible. Or, it would be possible in certain places, but not in others.
- Mima on April 28 2012 01:50 PM



I think AurorFlight104 brings up a great point in magic and muggle cohabitation would be a little like mutant/nonmutant cohabitation. I think it is highly unlikely that wizard/muggle coexistence would work on any grand scale. Obviously it can work on an interpersonal level or there would be no halfblood children. But I think the relationship between Lily and Petunia as children is a good metaphor for coexistence on a world- or even nation-wide scale. I think there would always be that jealously on the part of the Muggles, and always that - not superiority - but a sense of being different on the part of the wizards. It would be very difficult as a muggle not to have a sort of unconscious fear, or a mentality of "Don't make them mad or they'll turn you into a bat."
I also think it would be especially hard for very young wizards to be friends with young muggles because young wizards cannot control their magic. If these children got into a stupid, young child fight and, in an emotional magical explosion, the muggle child got hurt, that would be enough to instill the fear of that child and children like them into muggle chilren.
I think that whenever two different groups try to live together there will always be differences between them. I do believe they could be overcome, but it would take a very long time.
- sapphire_skies on April 28 2012 09:31 PM



I don't think that magical and non-magical communities could ever mix because of the fright that differences cause muggles. With burnings in Salem prove part of the point that Muggles are terrified of things that are different, which is probably part of the reason that Vernon tried so hard to find other reasons for all the strange happenings on that dull, grey, Tuesday.
- lily15243 on April 29 2012 01:38 PM



There are lots of good points in the previous comments. I agree with PadfootsPup that things will continue to get better over time. I think there will be more interaction between the two worlds, both out of necessity (since the old pure-blood families are dying out, even if someone marries a fellow witch or wizard, it's likely that person will have Muggle relatives) and out of curiosity (as we see with Mr. Weasley wanting to know more about Muggles). On the PotterWatch radio program, we hear Kingsley Shacklebolt saying that people should not take the attitude of "wizards first" because we are all human, and I think that will be a more common view in the future. Hopefully, rather than seeing each other as being inferior or superior, people in the magical and Muggle community will come to see each other as equals, despite their differences.

There will always be people who favor discrimination and will be suspicious of each other, as we see in our own world, but I do think that things can get better so that a larger percentage of people are more accepting of one another compared to what things were like in the past. The discriminatory views in the books are clearly meant as symbolism of the discrimination we see in our own world, and I think that (like in our own world) things will never be perfect, but there will always be people who try to make things better.
- Ani Sharmin on April 29 2012 02:15 PM



I hate to be the pessimist, but I think not. I think that Hagrid said it best. He said that if muggles knew about wizards, then "everyone'd be wantin' magic solutions to their problems"(page 65, paperback american version, "The Sorcerer's Stone") One of the biggest things the story showed us about magic was that sometimes it causes more trouble than it relieves us of. There would always be people like the Dursleys who would hate wizards and people like the Malfoys that would hate muggles. The coexistence simply would be close to impossible to achieve.
- The Ravenclaw Authoress on April 30 2012 06:39 PM



The Secrecy Act of 1629 was created because they had already discovered how difficult it was to openly coexist with Muggles. Some wizards and also some Muggles would inevitably try to exploit each other for power and or profit. Human nature both share. It was the wisdom of the leadership of the day that understood that the more powerful and yet smaller population should take the high road and keep to themselves rather than use their superior power to rule over Muggledom. It is clear that some families with their pure-blood mania would be treating Muggles very badly if allowed. They tried to make Muggle hunting legal! Still there
will always be contact and intermarriage although it is considered difficult for both sides.
- nana on April 30 2012 08:17 PM



One of the overarching themes of the books is how difficult it is to get anybody with even the slightest differences to get along, and that we should aim for that worldwide uniity and love ( a very christian but also universal theme). It was so hard for wizards to even get along together...that I think it would be impossible for muggles to accept wizards...but who knows after a thousand years of open relations maybe...but I find it hard to believe it would ever happen
- StoneShield128 on May 01 2012 12:29 PM



Personally, I think it is human nature to be afraid of things more powerful than ourselves. As stated in the question, S.S's first few chapters are a testament to the fact that Muggles are, as far as we can see, powerless against the magical world. Fear breeds hatred. We do not understand the things we fear, and again that breeds hatred. I think there might be a small number of Muggles who would be comfortable with the knowledge that there are beings with the power to enslave them with a whim. For the most part, however... I do not think the majority of Muggles could peacefully co exist with the wizarding world if they knew of it.


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- Pixie Queen on May 02 2012 12:50 AM



It doesn't matter whether we're talking about wizards, homosexuals or 'black' people.
As long as just one person can't handle the difference between behavior, race or opinions there will be problems bringing two worlds or cultures together.
That will be the case bringing wizards and muggles together too. Some will be open minded, some will love being a part of this world and learning about all the ancient books, spells and people who matters to wizards.
Some will not accept this world, maybe even try to kill the wizards.

Look what happened in our world once the Harry Potter books were realsed! I mean it is books! And people burned them, called the readers satanists and said the books were pure evil - imagine if it was non-fiction, JKR had published!

Personally I would love if the books were real; I cried when I didn't get a letter form Hogwarts at the age of 11!
I hope that someday all people will be accepted in our world; homosexuals as well as wizards!
- XeniaEJ on May 02 2012 05:35 AM



I don't think that there could be a smooth blending of magical and non magical people in the Harry Potter world. Like some other comments here have mentioned, people in our own real world can't even get along, so how would a group of people who have magical abilities be able to be accepted by those without the abilities.

Obviously it is not always the case that muggles never learn about the magical world. Wizards and witches marry muggles and clue them into the magical world. And families like the Dursley's who have magical family members but do not tell anyone else about it. I'm sure there are consequences put in place by the Minister of Magic if anyone said anything.

But why hasn't knowledge of the magical world spread more than it has already in the realm of the novel. There have been people who've learned about the magical world, probably though marriage or friendships with magical folk, but the word has not spread. This could be in part of the Oblivators, whose job it is to make sure that muggles don't remember anything they learn about the magical world.

The people of the magical world had to retreat into secrecy for a reason. They had to hide their abilities and go underground in order to live out happy lives. Even though that happened a long time ago, I am of the belief that people are no more accepting of those different than themselves than people were years ago. Or perhaps I spend too much time on the internet reading about intolerance and hate directed towards various groups of people.

If I were part of the magical world, I would want it to stay the way it was. It seems a lot easier to keep everyone else ignorant of the world's existence than to try it out again and have disastrous consequences.
- MarauderRiver14231 on May 02 2012 08:37 AM



500 Years of prosecution. The Statute will always be. Muggles just can't handle what they don't understand.
- Pegs81 on May 02 2012 11:58 PM



I dont think there could ever be peace between muggles and wizards. Muggles will never understand wizardry and might feel threatened by them. I doubt that even the best and most kind of wizards would ever reveal wizardry to muggles.
- owlauror996 on May 04 2012 03:51 PM



I believe that it possible for muggles and wizard co-exist for the right reasons. The best example of this is the respect and bond between Lilly, Petunia and Snape as they all gave their lives so that the dark would be defeated. Yes, it was messy physically and emotionality but they all did it . They all did the right thing! Lilly die for her son, Petunia raised him , protected him and love him so much she did not want him to go to Hogwarts! This women moved her world and whole family to a small island rock just so Harry would be safe! Snape gave his whole life to protect Harry! Muggles and wizards can work together but there is a price and the Muggles will be always left be hide. Wizard must respect this and both sides need to deal with consequences of it.
- Annabella on May 05 2012 10:59 AM



Peace can alway be achieved if one is willing.

This question can be substituted for men and women. Can they work together and be okay in the same place, yes...most of the time. There will always be those that are no going to want to change. There are always going to be those that are boxes that you just can't open no matter how much you try. But Change is good. Change is a part of life and if you do not accept it then it is just going to be harder latter on.

Knowledge is something that we are always going to want to get, and Muggle are no different. They are going to try to find out about us no matter what. If Wizards were to start to integrate more then there would be less mayhem for the future.

on another though about this...

Say you are in a muggle community that has a muggle born and Voldemort is at large. Would you rather know about magic and know that "oh that thing he is pointing at you is not a gun it is a wand that can kill you faster!"
Me I would want to know.

Also people who have Muggle borns are going to find out, and some wizards do marry Muggles. So if you think about it Muggle do know and they have seem to grasp it well to some extent.

Separating people based on abilities is wrong. I have Dyslexia and I do not like it when people say "oh you don't have to read out loud, because it is too hard for you" or something like that. Just because I am different does not mean that I am not capable of understanding and reading a loud. just like Muggle can understand Magic with out having it. What do you think Squibs are? People born around magic with out it. They are like muggles but they just were born in a Magical family. They are a Muggle in the terms of "non magic folk" and I think Flinch understand Magic well. So why exude others?

If Finch can understand then why can't other "non magic folk"
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