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As Episode 14 is about to come out, we're ready to bring you this week's posed question.

Very fortunately, Madam Pomfrey was able to regrow Harry's bones with Skele-Gro, after Lockhart erased them. That said, how does this magical potion work? Does Skele-Gro contain a bone growing formula which interacts with Harry's DNA? Does the potion - as we've been saying of many magical objects - contain a certain intelligence, such that it knows exactly where to help Harry grow bones? Another question - where do these potions come from and do you think the Department of Mysteries has tested them?

Some responses to this question will be read on the next episode of Alohomora!

Posted by Noah Fried on October 21 2012 01:48 PM (31 Comments)


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- darkknightwriter on October 21 2012 06:22 PM



I don't think the potion contains it's own intelligence in order to know exactly where Harry needed to grow bones. I think it works just like pain medication and such which is able to concentrate on areas of the body that are causing pain. I also don't think that the Department of Mysteries would work with testing potions. They seem to concentrate on the more abstract forms and deeper laws of magic: love, death, knowledge, space etc. I agree that since there is a Department in the Ministry for experimental charms, there is probably one for Potions as well. And actually, there is probably a place where magical specialists invent and produce such things, perhaps linked to St Mungos.
- ZeoRegrediens on October 21 2012 08:22 PM



This may be your most off-the-wall question yet, but we your loyal listeners, will humor you. :)

I don't think the potion has any kind of intelligence, that doesn't seem to be the way that very many brands of magic work. I also really doubt that the Dept. of Mysteries would have anything to do with such a lowly potion. There are plenty of healers out there to perform tests on medical potions.

As to how Skele-Gro itself operates.. I think it simply works along side the patient's DNA structure to reconstruct the bones the same way that they were grown originally as an unborn child. This is clear in the text, because the potion "re-grows" bones instead of simply "growing" them.

I now have this funny mental image of Harry with extra long fingers on one hand, a' la Ollivander or Voldemort. He would have to sue the Wizarding Pharmaceutical companies. I bet there's a lot of gold in that. :)
- Walpurgis on October 21 2012 09:46 PM



I believe the skelegrow targets the effected area in much the same way that muggle medecines do. Perhaps the potion actually picks up a small sample of DNA as it is swallowed and uses that to regenerate cells much as your body naturally rebuilds cells when you are injured. I would think the potion just takes natural cellular processes involved in healing and focuses them and speeds them along.
As for the developement and testing of healing products such as skele-grow I think it is more likely to be an independent research facility than a government base. Independent healers and such things perhaps have their own pharmaceutical companies who develop and sell medicinal potions or spell books. This can be one of many wizarding jobs that you just don't see within the stories. There is probably good money in wizarding medicine. I would think that there are ministry quality regulations like the FDA that checks the potion for safety.
- UrictheOddball on October 22 2012 09:29 AM



I don't think the potion contains any type of intelligence. I think it works very similarly to muggle medicines, in that you can take it by mouth and it will work on the appropriate part of the body. Our bodies have a way of knowing how to heal themselves. Without getting too scientific on you, if you were to cut your finger, your body would send clotting agents to clot your blood so that you don't bleed out, and it would then send repair cells to that specific site in your finger. Therefore, I think that the Skele-Gro is probably helped along to the specific site by the body itself. These potion ingredients could come from anywhere. They could be something that is still available to muggles, but that they have overlooked, much like a bezoar. Muggles can still see a bezoar, they just lack the insight into it’s magical properties. Perhaps Skele-Gro is made from the bezoar from the stomach of a cow, since cows produce milk which contains a lot of calcium and vitamin D which are both necessary for bone strength.
As for how the Department of Mysteries tests them, I think they were probably tested at a time when you could get away with forcing them upon prisoners. It would have been easy to justify using prisoners as guinea pigs by saying that they deserve to suffer the possible torturous side effects to pay for their crimes. Considering Filch mentions that he has chains and shackles in the dungeons that he used in the past to hang students from for disobeying, I don’t think a theory like this would be too far off, as physical punishment seems to have been a common part of wizard culture in the not too distant past.
- RadishEarrings on October 22 2012 05:51 PM



I think that the Ministry will have had to have tested it at one point, most likely an experimental potions branch. Despite their lax views about safety, somewhere in the book it says to only use Ministry approved antidotes (HBP, I think), and I don't think Dumbledore would let Madame Pomfrey use experimental potions on students. Although, that may be debatable.
- killey2011 on October 23 2012 07:22 AM



Madam Pomfrey kind of reminds me of my grandma, who believed in old wives tales from Mexico. For example, if I didn't feel good, she would take an egg, still in the shell, and make the sign of the cross with it on my skin all ofer my arms, legs, tummy, head, back, etc. The whole time she'd be muttering prayers. At the end she'd put the egg in a cup under the bed where I would then sleep. In the morning, she'd crack the egg, and the insides would be black, meaning that the evil eye (Ojo) had left me and gone into the egg. That story was to say this about Skelegrow:

Perhaps there is a spell or spells that accompany drinking it. I can see Madam Pomfrey doing something like my grandmother did only to Harry's arm, either directing the Skele-grow, prepping the arm, or focusing the power of the potion.

Or, maybe the same way we have cough medicine versus pain medicine versus nausea medicine, maybe there is Skele-grow for arms. And the instructions say something like, "for 14-16 yrs, take 4 tbsp"

What's really interesting to me, though, it that the arm continues to grow with Harry seamlessly for the rest of his growing life. It's one thing to make new bone, but to have it pick up just where the original bone left off? Wow!

Maybe it's like some kind of expanding bone foam, and where Harry's arm bones used to be, there is a bone-shaped cavity, and as his arm grows and the cavity expands, so does the Skele-grow. However, if that's true, nobody could take Skelegrow if they had their wisdom teeth (or a sixth toe) removed, because they'd just grow back.
- jessfudd on October 23 2012 03:13 PM



Well I think this is just a normal potion. It may seem like its a boring answer, but the Skele-Grow is most likely just like any other potion in the Wizarding world. However, When Harry drinks it the potion might "look" at Harry's other arm and duplicate the bone. And that might involve Harry's DNA, but considering the fact that Wizards probably don't know/ care about DNA I doubt that even if the potion did involve Harry's DNA, the wizard who invented the it probably didn't intended to make it deal with the DNA of the person who consumes the potion.
My theory is that in order to make the potion, the witch/wizard must add every bone of a human being. The reason for adding every bone of a human is because possibly when the person takes the potion, it has a sorta memory of each bone, realizes which bone in the person is missing, then fixes it. Sort of like a diagnostic test your computer runs sometimes to check for viruses or a connection problem. It KNOWS what parts of the computer should be there and how things are suppose to be for the computer to run smoothly. It might be the same with the Skele-Grow. It knows how the bones are and where they should be because of adding the bones to the potion.
Has the Department of Mysteries tested the potions you ask? well, does the department of Mysteries test every other potion that any witch or wizards makes? They obviously don't have any strict rules on potions you can brew and can't brew. So I think that they probably don't care.; And if the potion is not made right or has the wrong ingredients than it is the makers fault, not the Department of Mysteries.
- owlauror996 on October 23 2012 06:19 PM



Obviously from the books we see skelegro can both grow and mend bones but as to your question of how here is my theory. Having a genetics degree I loved your idea that skelegro took Harrys DNA and made more bones. So according to Gamps Law since you cant make something out of nothing( i think that is right) another theory I thought of was maybe for the regrowing of bones the potion takes a little bit of cells, calcium, dna, marrow etc from all of Harrys bones and uses that combination to make a new bone and then the potion goes into mending mode and replenishes all the bones again. My question is why does madame pomfrey say its going to be so painful? It doesnt seem that there are many other cures for ailments in the books that are painful.
- FawkesFan on October 24 2012 06:19 AM



I kind of like the idea of the potion acting like muggle medicine where it just goes to the part of the body where it is needed the most. It kind of sounds like when babies are developing inside the womb. To my limited knowledge, infants when they begin to develop they don't have bones at first. Could the potion be replicating this process but just on the arm?

Hmm...I am also interested in hearing everyones' thoughts on the above^.
- CentaurSeeker121 on October 26 2012 03:03 PM



St. Mungos! They must have a research laboratory and wizard pharmacy along with their healing practices. I bet that the wizarding world has a wide range of over-the-counter medications/potions and experimental potions used for certain maladies as well. They have to have people researching and trying to figure out how to help patients like Frank and Alice Longbottom. Perhaps there is a Gregory House of the wizarding world who walks the halls of St. Mungos working on the most difficult cases.
As for more normal things like re-growing bones, the potion was most likely developed and then made commercially available. And healing researchers still work to make new remedies. I like to think that the Skele-Grow is made of ingredients that react with intact pieces of bone in the person’s body to duplicate those and then move them to the broken area to create a bone patch. This is why it is some painful because it is actually reacting with your other intact bones.
In terms of the sentience of Skele-grow, I’m not so sure about that. Would you say that Advil has the intelligence to know that you are feeling pain in your head (as in a headache)? Or does your body “tell” it where it is needed. I think that the Skele-Grow is composed of ingredients that the body makes the best use of hen there are bones in need of re-growing.
- JealousofWizards on October 26 2012 06:40 PM



Just a quick note on how advil and other pain relievers work. When parts of our bodies are in pain or injured those parts produce prostoglandins. So when we take a pain
medicine it targets any prostoglandins in our bodies. If we just have a headache or if we have major injuries the medicine inhibits the prostoglandins being produced. So with that said I am not sure if skelegro would work the same way.
- FawkesFan on October 26 2012 07:31 PM



The whole question of Skele-Gro and DNA adds some interesting possibilities. Do you think it's possible that Skele-Gro has a map of a "normal" human skeleton and grows bones according to that? Or does it use the drinker's DNA specifically? What if someone with osteoporosis drank Skele-Gro? Would the bones regrow with the same reduced mineral density? Or could Skele-Gro be used to CURE diseases like osteoporosis because it grows bones "as they should be?"
- suprememugwump on October 27 2012 06:35 PM



I think Skele-Gro might work as a sort of Priori Incantatem in potion form. It senses how the bones originally were and restores them to that state. To cure diseases like osteoporosis, as suprememugwump asked, I believe it could be used with a combination of other spells or potions. That's a pretty serious disease, and I doubt Jo would have come up with a panacea for all bone-related maladies. She's made it very clear that magic doesn't solve all of the world's problems with a wave of the wand.

As for where they come from, I'd assume potioneers had concocted some form of experimental potion to aid in bone regrowth and offered it to the Ministry, who perfected it and marketed it. I doubt it would sell very well if it wasn't Ministry-approved.
- Ebaz on October 28 2012 04:24 PM



We know that Harry says that it feels like he has splinters in his arm when the bone is regrowing; to me, this suggests that Skele-Gro rapidly grows bone cells that match the DNA of the drinker and that grows the bone back.
- Ali Wood on October 31 2012 01:16 AM



We know that Skele-Gro is not only used for the regrowing of bones, but also the mending of broken bones, as we see when Fleur gives Griphook Skele-Gro at Shell Cottage. I think that it must be able to read what your original skeletal form was and then replicate it, whether that be growing bones or mending bones that are broken. This also makes me wonder if Skele-Gro could be used not only on people with broken or missing bones, but people with bone diseases to replenish their bone density to its original state.
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