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Posted by Noah on February 24 2013 05:22 PM (22 Comments)


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I love Lupin too! I share your pain, Michael. :(

On why Ron became a prefect: Although I agree that Dean was probably the one most deserving of the title out of the boys, I think the fact that the boy-prefect and the girl-prefect often have to collaborate made them go for Ron. Hermione was the obvious choice for the girl-prefect, but since her social skills are kind of particular, I believe they wanted someone who would both respect her and listen to her but also challenge her if she became too bossy. That someone could have been either Harry or Ron, but they went for Ron because Harry had aleady shouldered a lot of responsibilities.

I see Lupin's werewolf situation -how he experiences it and how society reacts to it- as a metaphor for mental illness. In our sad Muggle world, people suffering from mental illness (schizofrenia, bipolar disorder etc.) are usually stigmatised, and it is harder for them to get jobs, and once others know about it they tend to see them as their illness and not as any other unique individual, and fear them. Lupin keeps his situation under control with certain medication, as a schizofrenic might, and just as his werewolfness is an aspect of him that doesn't define him as a person, so mental illness is an aspect of someone and it doesn't define them.

On Dean's fear of a severed hand, and other bizzare Boggart forms: Maybe Dean watched the Adams Family as a young kid and the moving hand really freaked him out? And maybe the huge eyeball is the eye of Sauron?

Lupin couldn't/shouldn't have collaborated with Hagrid because you're not supposed to face dangerous creatures and learn how to defend yourself from them in Care of Magical Creatures...

I never ever ever saw any signs of a Harry/Hermione romance. It was always clearly a friendship to me, possibly because boys have been good friends of mine since a young age and the possibility of romance between friends seems incredibly icky. Or because the "sidekicks" are always far superior to the protagonist, therefore the female sidekick is always too good for the protagonist.

(In case this is the second time it appears, sorry, I don't know what happened.)
- Efthymia on February 26 2013 08:57 AM



In regards to the severed hand and the eyeball, is it possible that the boggart takes on the form of a feared object since it wouldn't necessarily be able to represent the fear itself? For instance, Lupin's Boggart is the moon, but I don't know if his greatest fear is *actually* the moon. It's probably what the moon might make him do - namely, lose control and kill innocent people. It might be beyond the scope of what the Boggart can create to have werewolf Lupin howling over several dead bodies or something.

Similarly, maybe Dean's greatest fear is losing his hands - the times we learn something about him, it's always that he's decently artistic. Maybe the Boggart can't create Dean standing there screaming with a bloody stump for an arm, but it can make the actual feared *object* of the lost hand. (Why snapping it in a mousetrap is what makes it funny to Dean is another psychological study in itself.)

I think this can be extrapolated to the eyeball, too, and probably the other weird Boggart forms. It can't create the circumstances, so it just makes the object, which looks strange out of context.
- the head girl on February 26 2013 05:07 PM



"Similarly, maybe Dean's greatest fear is losing his hands - the times we learn something about him, it's always that he's decently artistic."

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What a great catch, head girl! I'd never thought about it that way.
- Snuffles on February 26 2013 11:34 PM



I thought Remus and Dobby were connected by the fact that both of them are, in a way, enslaved by society. Dobby, because he is a house elf whose bound by tradition of serving his family and Lupin because of his status of a werewolf he cannot get jobs or be treated as a normal wizard. Also they are both looked down upon because Dobby wants to be free and Lupin is an outcast.
- IBelieveNargles on February 27 2013 10:46 PM



Hi keep up the Amazing work. The podcast was BRILLANT (as always.)
- PumpkinFirebolt1518 on March 01 2013 02:58 PM



Just wanted to say really great episode. I think any time I find myself in a tense situation now I'm just going to ask loudly if someone put their name in the goblet of fire.
- SicklesAndDimes on March 01 2013 09:37 PM



Loved the discussion on boggarts. Heres a question. Supposedly know one knows what a boggart looks like originally cause it assumes the shape of something that scares you. In book 5 Mad Eye Moody can see the boggart through the writing desk with his magical eye. Wouldnt he be able to see the true form of a boggart cause the boggart cant see him?
- FawkesFan on March 01 2013 11:52 PM



I was really intrigued by the Fat Lady incident this week and lots has made me think! Firstly, I wondered if cutting or ripping a portrait when it is inside can actually 'kill' the inhabitant or would it just automatically transfer to another frame? Also, I know Sirius would have been really frustrated that she would not let him in the dormitory but I don't understand why ripping the portrait would help him? He must have realized that this would just raise the alarm. This then made me wonder whether, if the fat lady had the password, she would be forced to let him in, like Cadogan does later on; do you think she is allowed to not let someone in even if they have the password? When the fat lady runs away into a portrait on the fourth floor I find it strange why she did not simply go to Dumbledore or another teacher to warn them. My answer to this at first was she doesn't have another portrait to go to like Phineus Nigellus does, however she manages to transfer into a seemingly random portrait of a landscape. Can the portraits go into any portrait then? My final queries about this are whether Hagrid would have seen Sirius in dog form running around outside, and whether Filch/ Mrs Norris would have either. Thanks for the amazing discussions on the podcast, looking forward to the next one!!
- siriouslymagic on March 02 2013 06:30 AM



I started to think about what the other student's boggarts turned into and I thought of Seamus's that turned into a banshee. How clever of Jo to use a creature of Irish folk-lore as a fear for a person with such an Irish name! Its entirely possible that he heard superstitions or actual stories of banshees from people in his family. I can imagine the back story now, "Me Uncle Fergus once told me about a banshee that haunted the moors of..."
- Minerva Arcturus Shacklebolt on March 03 2013 04:40 PM



On the subject of boggarts, what about people who "have no fear." It would raise an interesting philosophical question as to whether this is truly possible and if it was, would this mean that the person could see the true form of a boggart? As a bonus question, what do you think that would look like? Love the show thanks guys!
- Minerva Arcturus Shacklebolt on March 03 2013 04:44 PM



Great episode again. Loved the commentary on the boggarts and had never made the connection between a boggart who takes the form of what you fear and the "boogeyman" tale we were told when we were young - the boogeyman will get you - he lurks in dark places and causes fear amongst children. Great work! Loved making that connection.
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