Podcast Question of the Week – Episode 55

Listeners beware! This week’s question comes from an old, dark, and haunted place.

Okay, just kidding – it’s not old, dark, and haunted – but it does question the very ancient, very deadly, tournament of four three wizards.

Do you think – hypothetically – if the Tri-Wizard Tournament had existed without age restrictions back in the era when Tom Riddle was at Hogwarts, would he have entered? Would he have been selected?

Let us know what you think, either below or by sending in an audio clip (use the record button just to the right! –> ) and you might hear your response on next week’s episode!

  • Perksoffandoms

    I think he would have entered, because he was so proud and ego-tistical of himself that he would have liked the fame that comes with being a Tri-Wizard champion. And he might have been selected, because he is very powerful in spells (he could control his magic when he was 11, even The Chosen One couldn’t do that) But that depends on what his classmates were. I’ve just looked on Harry Potter Wiki, and Tom Riddle started Hogwarts at 1938, and ended at 1945, and he did have a lot of classmates (although we never knew who they were) Professor Slughorn was there with his Slug Club, meaning there were a lot of specially gifted students, so yes, Im sure either Tom or someone from the Slug Club would have been chosen. Or, Tom may not even enter, seeing himself above the entire tournament because it is made by the Ministry, isn’t it? But I would hate to have a Slytherin Hogwarts Champion (maybe that’s just me, but I would love a Ravenclaw champion, haha) I do think Tom may have even won the Tournament if it was held back then. He would have tried harming the other champions, or get one of his fellow death eaters to do it. Love the show!

  • TheOneWholocks

    I think Riddle would have most definitely entered the tournament. Voldemort always had the dream to be great and would have yearned for the “eternal glory” that came with the winning of the Tri-Wizard tournament. Since Tom was already an amazingly powerful wizard and probably the most powerful in the school atthe time,, I don’t see the Goblet turning away such skill and magic. Love listening to the show!

  • SpectacularlyHypothetical

    I think he would have entered, and if he’d been selected then he would have won, but I’m not sure if he would have been selected.

    It really depends on how the Goblet selects people which isn’t fully clear. If it selects the most powerful people or those most likely to win then Tom would have been selected. But if it selects based on some other criteria, such as “worthiness” then maybe Tom might not have been selected.

    It’s hard to make a judgement on this based on the three (normal) champions we have. Cedric is always shown to embody the best virtues of his house (probably the most virtuous of the houses) and Hogwarts generally.

    Krum is obviously a powerful wizard and we certainly don’t have any reason to think he is in some way unworthy, from the brief scene we have of him in DH we know his family were in the resistance against Grindelwald, he thinks Hermione is a more worthy date than some of the more “attractive” girls he could have had so he seems to be a fairly virtuous guy.

    Fleur is a tricky one because at this point she just seems snobbish and arrogant, but she also shows she has a great deal of love for her little sister, and lets face it, isn’t exactly the most powerful witch we have ever seen, so maybe the Goblet selected her for her inner virtues.

    This is maybe not the case, because Cedric Krum and Fleur are all powerful as well. I’d be interested to see what other people think.

    • DolphinPatronus

      I love that you note that selection is based on “worthiness” & virtuousness because I don’t feel that power was the only factor in selection. I feel like all 4 of the champions are truly good people at heart & that is the main reason they were selected.

  • DolphinPatronus

    I’m not sure Tom Riddle would’ve entered if the tournament took place in his first (or even second) year but think he would’ve entered for sure after he was a bit older & knew he was capable of very powerful magic. I also think he would’ve found away to be sure he was selected. As we have seen the goblet can be tricked so it wouldn’t surprise me if young Tom cast some spell to ensure that he was chosen as Hogwarts’ champion. I also don’t doubt that he’d cheat like crazy to make sure he won. As others have mentioned he craves glory & is extremely prideful so he’d do whatever he had to in order to win.

    • HelenTheEagle

      I agree that he would not have entered when he was younger, he still had this wait and see attitude back then.
      And cheating is definitely his thing.
      It would be complicated though, he would want to win no matter what, but he can’t risk revealing how much he has dabbled in the Dark Arts. He would use this opportunity to show everyone how brilliant he is at magic, while showing his Death Eaters to be that even without Dark magic he is still not one to be crossed.

  • Jake Pontzer

    Not only is this the best PQotW that I think we have had…but this may be the best theoretical question I have ever heard in my life.

    I think absolutely Tom Riddle would have entered, no matter his age. He wants fame, glory, and money means power, and he loves that. He is very talented, so if the Goblet selects based on that criteria he probably would have been chosen (at least in his older years at school).

    But I do not think he would have won. One of the main rules of the tournament is that no help can be given from teachers, and while Tom has no issue with breaking rules to get ahead, he also likes to do things alone. So he probably would not accept help, even from Slughorn.

    Without help, none of the champions in the present day tournament would have stood a chance. I think Tom would have had enough magical ability to survive all of the tasks, but without the intel into what they involved, he wouldn’t have been able to defeat them.

    Of course, there is a chance (and a pretty good one) that he would manipulate others into giving him information, perhaps even resorting to using unforgivables, memory charms, and veritaserum if it was available. But I think that getting information this way would be less effective than getting it from people who are willing to help. So I think he would have a disadvantage due to his stubbornness.

    • Maureen

      I totally disagree that Tom wouldn’t have accepted help. We see in the series how he was able to charm and manipulate teachers to get what he wanted, and I definitely think he would have done that during the tournament.

      • Jake Pontzer

        What I’m saying is, yes he will manipulate others to get information. But I think that getting help from those who completely consent to helping him would be more…helpful. And he would not be as well off in the tasks as the other champions who had real friends and teachers whom they truly liked.

  • Madina El-Mostafa

    I think DEFINITELY, Voldemort wants all the “eternal” glory he could get, he has a very strong desire to show how powerful he is as a wizard. And I think he would be selected if the goblet’s choice of champion was based on how powerful a wizard is (and Voldemort has both the magical genes and the will to work really hard to become a great dark wizard), unless the goblet took the purity and goodness of the person into consideration.

    • DolphinPatronus

      I’m not sure I agree that he has “the will to work really hard to become a great dark wizard”. He usually has others do his dirty work for him. The only thing he’s ever really wanted to do himself was kill Harry.

      • Madina El-Mostafa

        Hmmm that’s true, do you think the younger Riddle had followers already at that point? he did open the chamber of secrets himself though.

        • Aradan

          Oh, we know he did. I think it’s during the sixth year that Dumbledore tells Harry about how Riddle grew up in Hogwarts, surrounded by students he called friends, but were really just his serveants.

        • DolphinPatronus

          As Aradan said he did but I’d guess he didn’t start “making friends” until at least his second or third year. When Dumbloredore first meets him young Tom is very clearly socially akward & even a bit insecure. He doesn’t yet know how to be around people without seeming odd. So I’m sure in his first year he observed the kids around him to learn what he should be like & even tho it wasn’t genuine started acting like he was expected. I also think the more he learned about himself the more it brought him out of his shell & made him the confident egomaniacal sadist we’ve come to know as Lord Voldemort.

  • Kaitlyn K.

    I don’t think that he would have entered. Riddle obviously viewed himself as a proficient and powerful wizard already and wouldn’t go for this tournament like a jock-like person would. Riddle wanted glory of a more violent, more personal, and perhaps even more intimate fashion. In Half-Blood Prince we learn that he was already questioning Slughorn in his teenage years about Horcruxes so I think he’d have been too busy planning and ensuring his immortality in order to worry about such an event that could have very well killed him.

    • DolphinPatronus

      Those are valid points however what if he already created a Horcrux? Do you think he still wouldn’t enter or do you think he’d see it as an opportunity?

      He could use this as a sort of stepping stone. He could use dark magic to make sure he won then once he had that “eternal glory” use it in his favor. Almost like a recruitment tool to gain more followers. Like “See people I really am a great powerful wizard. You should follow me.”

      • Kaitlyn K.

        Those are also valid points, however, in Slughorn’s memory we find that he is with Avery and Lestrange (future Death Eaters), so i think he doesn’t need to worry about creating a following. If we break him down Psychologically, Riddle is a Narcissistic Sociopath. He is plagued with grandiose opinions of himself and the belief that he is superior to other people. Narcissistic sociopaths tend to see themselves in the best light possible and are easily able to ‘charm’ others in order to gain their trust and/or loyalty. A definite characteristic of a narcissistic sociopath is a tendency to view others not as fellow human beings, but rather as tools or means to an end. People diagnosed with this personality disorder usually do not have boundaries when it comes to manipulating and victimizing others if doing so will lead to their own benefit. Riddle’s Psychopathology plays a massive role in his decisions, his actions and without it, I don’t think Tom Riddle, Jr. could have become Lord Voldemort.

        • DolphinPatronus

          However if he is a true narcissist he’s going to want as many followers as he can get. Narcissists require excessive admiration, attention and affirmation or, if they can’t get that, they want to be feared and notorious. I feel like Voldemort wants both. He wants to be admired by “like minded” people if for no other reason than to be able to use them to his advantage. But at the same time he wants those that don’t think as he does to fear him.

          • Kaitlyn K.

            Does the fact that the Death Eaters kiss his robes not imply that he wants admiration? Riddle, as inexperienced as he is with love, admiration, and attention, perverted the emotions. The Dark Marks also might be evidence of this. The Death Eaters come when called, much like Escorts. Again, the moral and emotional lines of admiration are blurred. Dumbledore tells us in HBP that “as an unusually talented and very good-looking orphan, he naturally drew attention and sympathy from the staff almost from the moment of his arrival. He seemed polite, quiet, and thirsty for knowledge. Nearly all were most favorably impressed by him (HBP, US Ed. 360-361).” So, he had some sort of admiration. With Slughorn especially, how else could he have gotten the Horcrux information out of old Sluggy? I do quite agree with you that he might want both admiration and fear. As much as we love to hate Tom Riddle, I must admit, the guy is fascinating.

          • DolphinPatronus

            The only reason I mentioned that he wanted admiration was because you said he didn’t need to worry about creating a following. I feel like he’d do whatever it took to get as many followers as he could.

          • Kaitlyn K.

            I suppose the “worry” could have a double meaning. I meant that he was already surrounded by people like Avery and Lestrange so he didn’t have to look very far for people to join him. He had a “bank” of people at the ready in Slytherin house.

          • DolphinPatronus

            Yes I think I was misunderstanding you a bit & you’re right I’m betting most of the Slytherin house would be ripe for the picking so to speak.

  • crookshanks11

    I think Riddle would have entered the tournament because of his thirst for power and I don’t think that he would mind admiration and glory either. I agree with the other comments that he is also very egotistical (probably more so after he learned of his unique talents such as parseltongue) and would be very confident in entering.

    On the subject of him being chosen by the Goblet of Fire, however, it could go either way. My initial reaction was yes, of course he would get picked, because even if his magic wasn’t used for good, even Dumbledore could not deny (in Half-Blood Prince) that Riddle was an extraordinarily powerful and talented wizard, and that the Goblet would recognize that right away.

    But after reading the other comments, I did start to wonder whether the Goblet chooses champions based on their virtues, not only power or skill. I don’t know if I want to argue that because even though you can say that Fleur Delacour and Viktor Krum are good people without a doubt, but especially in this book they don’t initially scream “heroic” and “virtuous”, and Fleur isn’t particularly powerful either.

    But one thing that I can say without hesitation is that if Tom Riddle was chosen as a champion, he would win and he would make sure that he won. We know that he has no problem pushing others under the bus or cheating to reach his ambitions, and can’t you just imagine him manipulating Slughorn to give him hints/help?

    • James Healey

      I think the Goblet chooses based on who it thinks could win the tournament, plain and simple. The triwizard tournament is essentially a wizarding sporting event and the best of the best would compete. There is no denying that Riddle was great, since he was able to use his magic before enrolling at Hogwarts. I think the Goblet, as it is described, an impartial judge and would only judge based on the talents of the wizards who entered.

  • HelenTheEagle

    I think Tom would have entered, if only to show his Death Eaters to be just how powerful he is. He could use this fame to gain more influence and to charm the public.

    However, I do not think he would have been chosen to be Hogwarts’ champion. In my opinion the Goblet picks a representative of the school that is the global image of it. Cedric Diggory was a loyal Hufflepuff, but also had enough of the other houses in him. I don’t really believe he was the smartest or best student, just the best representation of Hogwarts.
    Fleur was the figurehead of Beauxbatons, possessing elegance, grace and being good at charms and average spells. Krum presents a powerful image, he is stubborn and has confidence, which I think is the trademark characteristic of Durmstrang.

    I think Tom is too different to represent Hogwarts. It would not be logical to hold a tournament between Schools if they picked the students that are the odd one of the bunch, or at least that is what I believe.

    • DolphinPatronus

      That is an excellent point about the champions being “the global image” of the school. It makes me wonder if Harry had been allowed (& did) enter under Hogwarts if he would’ve been picked if this really is how the selection is made.

      • SpectacularlyHypothetical

        Oh very good question. I really like the champions as personifications of the schools idea too. But under this criteria I’m not sure Harry is a good enough representative.

        I always took the sorting hats message in book 5 to mean that the aim should be to strike a balance between the houses, and the ideal person for hogwarts would be a 4-way hatstall. I always thought dumbledore represented this: intelligence of a ravenclaw, hardwork and loyalty of a hufflepuff, bravery and instincts of a gryffindor, and the Machiavellian cunning of a slytherin.

        Is Harry a good enough representative if each of the houses? At this point I’m not sure he’s got the balance right.

        • DolphinPatronus

          Well Harry is loyal & obviously fair (he did after all tell Cedric about the dragons since he was the only one that didn’t know) so he’s got Hufflepuff covered. As for Ravenclaw…according to Pottermore Individuality is a trait as well as wisdom so I feel like he’s got that covered.

          • HelenTheEagle

            You do realise that Harry was picked to represent a different school right? It would have been easy to get him picked that way, since obviously he was the only one entering.
            Moody entered him under a fourth school, so he doesn’t represent Hogwarts either way.

          • DolphinPatronus

            Yes we know he was selected for a different school. We are discussing my comment of:

            ” It makes me wonder if Harry had been allowed (& did) enter under Hogwarts if he would’ve been picked if this really is how the selection is made.”

          • HelenTheEagle

            Of course, I’m sorry, I missed that specific part of your comment apparently :D

          • DolphinPatronus

            I too am sorry if I came off a tad snippy. My son & I are both home sick today so I’m a bit cranky. lol

          • HelenTheEagle

            Don’t worry about it. I defnitely understand ;)

    • James Healey

      But isn’t Tom Riddle described by those who knew him before he turned to Voldemort as sort of a good boy, getting good marks and keeping his nose (relatively) clean during his tenure at Hogwarts? In a way, he was Cedric Diggory of his age, a handsome, talented wizard who knew how to charm those around him. The only difference being the paths they chose later in life (if Diggory made it that far). Those who knew Riddle outside of the Death Eaters really didn’t know his true nature (IMO).

      • DolphinPatronus

        I wouldn’t say opening the Chamber & creating Horcuxes is even remotely close to a “good boy”! He was REALLY good at making people THINK he was good. He & Cedric are only alike in the fact that they were both good looking & talented. They may both be charming but they different kinds of charm. Cedric’s charm was kind & sweet. Tom’s was manipulative & self serving.

        • James Healey

          But for a while, Tom Riddle looked the part of Cedric Diggory, although never acted the part. If it were going on the look of the school, Tom Riddle would have been the perfect candidate, although his inner intentions would definitely have disqualified him. But I don’t think that the Goblet was trying to look at inner intentions, just whether a wizard is qualified enough to win the tournament.

          • DolphinPatronus

            I have to respectfully disagree that goblet wasn’t looking deeper into the candidates cause let’s face it Fleur does horrible so she really isn’t overly qualified but she turns out to be a good person with good intentions.

          • James Healey

            Hey, I may be new to commenting around here, but I know that the best part of discussion is disagreeing with someone. :)

            But it could be argued that Fleur maybe was the best qualified in the Beauxbatons school. It’s like saying she was the best of the worst school in a sense.

          • DolphinPatronus

            Without disagreement debate would not be possible & welcome to the discussion. Have you checked out the forum yet? We get loads of great discussions going there as well. :)

            That is an excellent point about Fleur being the best option of those that entered from her school. We never really learn about the other students from Beauxbatons or Durmstrang.

            I feel like everyone’s comments about how the goblet selected the champions have some truth to them actually. I have a feeling it looked at a multitude of factors before deciding. I imagine knowledge, power, talent, intent/over all “moral fiber” (to quote the judges lol) & who would best represent the school are all factored into the choice. Harry had no competion from anyone since his entered school was nonexistent so of course he had the best of all those factors & was chosen.

          • James Healey

            If you use all those criteria to judge the other two remaining contestants, I wonder how Krum and Cedric won out in their respective schools. What made Cedric such a good candidate for the tournament over every other student in Hogwarts that entered? I know we don’t meet many other older students, but still. And I can’t imagine that the only reason Krum was chosen was because he was a great Quidditch star. Being good at sports doesn’t make you automatically good at other talents. But I digress.

            I haven’t checked out the forums yet. I did a crash run of all the Alohomora episodes before I really joined in the discussion. I’d rather not discuss something from Episode 1 when you guys were on Episode 55. :)

          • DolphinPatronus

            Well Cedric does seem to be fairly knowledgeable, has reasonable talent, & certainly has a good heart. As far as power is concerned he seems to have at least as much as the other participants. But as you said we don’t really have a good scope of what the other students that entered are like. We really only know of a couple of students from Hogwarts that were actually of age that entered. It was rumoured that Warrington from Slytherin put his name in but as I recall he wasn’t exactlly all that smart & Angelina Johnson also entered. We know she would fit as well but Cedric must’ve had some advantage over her. As for Krum I’m sure his fame didn’t hurt his chances (lol) & he absolutely has the talent & we see that he is genuinely a nice guy. The smarts are a tough one tho. It’s hard to judge his true intellect because he’s kind of written as “the dumb jock” but he seems to be average in that aspect. (which doesn’t say much for his school mates lol)

            Now as for the forums…they actually have each podcast as it’s own topic so you’d be ok :) I came to the podcast fairly recently myself so I can relate to being leary to join. (hope to see you in the forums soon tho :) )

  • madame_lestrange

    Yes! Without a doubt, Riddle would have entered. The appeal of “eternal glory” would have been terribly difficult for him to resist. His ego and desire to prove his prowess would definitely make him put him name in the Goblet. And, I do think the Goblet would pick his name, especially if the Tournament happened in his last couple years. Don’t forget that Riddle opened the Chamber while he at school — he definitely has the skills to compete. This is assuming that the Goblet’s decision is based on talent alone, not virtue.

    Whether he would have won? Most definitely. Would he have won fairly? Of course not. Riddle wouldn’t be able to deal with not winning — he would have been already been recruiting would-be Death Eaters and could not risk looking weak to them. I think he would likely enlist their help, however it would be most useful to him. Also, he was close to Slughorn who would likely offer him help. Slughorn would be all over helping a Triwizard Champion — imagine how much he would enjoy adding that to his brag list!!

    • DolphinPatronus

      I’m not so sure Slughorn would help without some manipulation on Voldy’s part. Yes Slughorn love to surround himself with powerful people & a Triwizard Champ would be nice but I can’t see him offering help unprovoked.

      • madame_lestrange

        Hmm, I agree. But I don’t think it would take too much convincing.

        • DolphinPatronus

          Very true. I’m sure a box of that crystalized pineapple would do the trick. ;)

  • Maureen

    Although I think Riddle probably would have entered and won, I think that there is a possibility that he would not have wanted to. The showy, voyeuristic aspect of the tournament isn’t really his style. He likes to operate in secrecy, and he often doesn’t even tell others about his achievements, so he might not want hundreds of other people to watch him display his skills. By essentially performing in front of all those people, he would have shown them his strengths and weaknesses, thus giving them a potential advantage over him. At the very least, the entire wizarding world would have been very aware that he was someone to watch out for.

    If Riddle had been in the Triwizard Tournament, and the second task had been the same, do you think he would have had a person that he would miss most at all? If he didn’t, how would that have worked? Would the whole world have been alerted to the fact that Voldemort loves no one?

    • madame_lestrange

      That is a fantastic question. The flashback in HBP shows him with some cronies so perhaps it would be one of them taken as it is the closest thing he has to a “friend.”

    • froggyhpmb3

      I agree that he loves to operate in secrecy and that the tournament would not be his style but, when he does do something extraordinary he loves to brag like in the graveyard at the end of the book. I love the last question you asked too. I suppose they would have chosen someone with the most power or important qualities among his followers. If not that, maybe they would have altered the task altogether? Maybe taken something that was important to him rather than someone.

  • FeatherSickle7662

    Personally I do believe that Tom Riddle would have entered. His need to achieve glory and greatness was too extensive for him to sit out and watch others have all the fun! I also do feel that he would have been selected. Why may you ask? Because, “He Who Must Not Be Named did great things. Terrible, oh yes, but great!” Despite the extreme hatred for Voldemort that everyone has, he was indeed very talented. He wasn’t extraordinary but he was very talented and very smart.

  • CentaurSeeker121

    Tom was already a person of many talents by this point and I am wondering: if he DID choose to enter the tournament, could he have hoodwinked the Goblet of Fire into choosing him somehow? Would he have been powerful enough to do so at that point? Or if he didn’t want to enter himself, could he manipulate the Goblet into choosing someone of his liking and then kind of do what Crouch Jr. did and make sure they got through all of the tasks just so they would end up doing his bidding for him later because they “owed him one”?

    I think that if Tom had entered and been selected he probably would have won but only because he manipulated everything and everyone so that it all went in his favor and we all know that Tom was not above killing. He could have killed the other champions and made it look like a complete accident and no one would have been any wiser (except for maybe Dumbledore and a few of Tom’s select cronies).

    • James Healey

      I don’t think Riddle would have been that keen to kill his fellow students under the nose of Dumbledore. You have to remember that Dumbledore was the only one he ever feared, so to kill a student right out in the open with Dumbledore watching is something I don’t think Riddle would have ever done. The only murder he ever committed in Hogwarts was Myrtle, but I don’t think that was ever really an intentional thing for him to do. I think it was a fortunate (in his eyes) accident on his part of finding the Chamber of Secrets.

  • Aradan

    First off, I’m pretty sure that during Riddle’s time there would’ve already been an age restriction in place, it was only fifty years earlier.

    Secondly, I’m pretty sure that Tom would’ve entered himself. We know that he sought power, and loved trophies, and I’m sure he would’ve loved to have the triwizard cup as another Horcrux. I also think that in order to get chosen he might have threatened other students in order to make sure he had little competition and would get chosen. If he was still too young to enter, he might’ve even forced someone older than him to throw in his name for him. He was certainly a very good wizard at that point already, we know that at age 16, in his fifth year, he had already created his first Horcrux through the murder of Myrtle. So there’s really no question that he was very capable, and might very well have been chosen.

    • Aradan

      Another point though:
      I think in the hypothetical we’re overlooking the actual.
      I don’t think that there was a Triwizard tournament during any point of time when Tom was at Hogwarts. Two reasons:
      He would’ve tried to get the cop, or maybe even the goblet of fire to create a horcrux with. They’re such powerful magical objects he wouldn’t've stopped at anything to get them, and even if he didn’t win the tournament, he would’ve doubtlessly gotten both objects later, during the first wizarding war, where almost nothing could’ve stopped him. But neither object is a horcrux, so I don’t think he ever was in the tournament.
      Secondly, he doesn’t seem to know much about the tournament. He actually has to lure Bertha Jorkins to his forest hideout in Albania to find out about it. If he had known about it, or even competed, then I seriously doubt that he would’ve had to do it.
      So, recap: Yes, I think Riddle would’ve tried to compete, I think he would’ve even won, but I do not believe that there actually was a tournament during that time.

      • DolphinPatronus

        The question is posed as hypothetical specifically because the was no tournament while he was at school but not for your reasons. The tournament was discontinued about 200 years prior to this one because so many of the champions had died while competing. It says something about that in chapter 12.

        • Aradan

          Right, I was just using the lack of effect on Riddle to prove the lack of tournament, while you have the actual reason for why there wasn’t one. I suppose it’s not too important that it’s hypothetical, I was just trying to make a distinction in case anyone was wondering if there was one.

          • DolphinPatronus

            Oh ok I misunderstood. :)

  • James Healey

    I think that the answer to this question relies on what year of schooling Riddle was in when the tournament took place. I think in his first few years (1-3) he definitely would have entered. He was young and full of himself at this point and wanted to prove that he could be full of eternal glory. If it was held in the last few years of his Hogwarts schooling (5-7) I don’t think he would have. At this point (and maybe earlier) he had already decided his fate in Horcruxes and was working on creating them and would not worry on a silly sporting event. Why would he need to prove that he had eternal glory when he had already tethered himself to earth and was on his way to becoming the most powerful wizard of the age?

  • Courtney

    Yes he would have. End of story.

  • Peggy Ruiz

    Of course he would have been chosen. He would have made sure he was chosen, by whatever means necessary. He had already opened the chamber and had made his first Horcrux by the time he would enter. He couldn’t take credit for anything of that level. If he had the chance to be more famous, before being Voldemort, he would totally take it. And I’m sure he would win, too.

  • StoneHallows

    I think that, once Tom Riddle truly became Lord Voldemort, he wouldn’t have thought the Tournament would have been worth his time. Yes, he wanted eternal glory, but he was much more of a behinds-the-scene kind of guy, and not the type to display his talents like this. It’s his Death Eaters that do mass destruction. He was always more personal and one on one when killing someone…

    • HelenTheEagle

      I don’t think he is behind-the-scenes at all. He is (or will be) Voldemort. Everyone knows and fears his name. And we see in CoS that he already wanted that when he was 16.
      Even in the Orphanage he wanted to be revered and feared.

  • froggyhpmb3

    The idea of eternal glory might have appealed to Tom at first but I don’t think he would have entered. While he definitely wanted to prove himself as a great wizard he had higher aims than that. Also, the “eternal glory” Harry gains from the Triwizard Tournament seems minimal (although it might just be overshadowed by Cedric’s death). As a young student he might have entered but by fifth year he already has a very clear idea of how he wants to be remembered (that’s the year he lets the basilisk loose I think). If the age line existed for the tournament and he had to be seventeen, he most likely would not have entered.

  • PhoenixFeathered1

    Tom Riddle would have entered. He was always trying to prove how important and superior he was. He was a prefect, Head Boy, and he made his diary to prove he was the Heir of Slytherin. I think it would have applied to him. He would’ve been selected also. The cup does not seem to care about morals and he was undeniably a very gifted wizard even then. After he was in the tournament, he would have done whatever was required to win.

    • DolphinPatronus

      I don’t think the cup sets the tasks so it’s possible it does take morals into account. We only see 4 people it’s selected over centeries of use & all 4 of them have pretty good moral standing.

  • Subjective Unicorn

    I think that he would not have entered. If he would be in 5th yeah or above during the hypothetical tournament. He would probably used the time when everyone is watching the tasks to to explore the secrets of Hogwarts further without the danger of being caught by the teachers, he would have the freedom to do what ever he liked while everyone is away.

    • HelenTheEagle

      He might have. But he already believes that he knows more about Hogwarts’ secrets than anyone, or so he seems to think. Harry says so when they go and find the Diadem in the RoR. And that’s without the extra time the Tournement would have given him.
      Don’t you think he would have wanted to see the Illustrious Triwizard Tournament when he had the chance?

      • Subjective Unicorn

        It depends in which year he would be, when the hypothetical tournament starts. But somehow I do not see him observing someone getting the eternal glory. IMO Tom Riddle seems to me to be so arrogant that he would not even consider being a fan of a champion from hogwarts, he would rather work on his own eternal glory, which he takes literally and first seeks to achieve eternal life and then the glory

  • Pigwidgeon

    I think he would have entered, definitely. I started thinking that though he would enter, he wouldn’t get chosen because he is “evil” at heart and the Goblet can possibly detect those sorts of things, but knowing that Crouch Jr enters Harry against the rules and with bad intentions and the Goblet doesn’t detect that, then the Goblet wouldn’t be able to detect Tom’s “evilness”. So not only do I think he would have entered, I think he possibly could have been chosen. He was an excellent student and an excellent duelist and he was incredibly confident in himself. Would he win? I don’t know. I think that if he saw he possibly wasn’t going to win he might have sabotaged one of the other champions in order to win. Voldey is all about that glory.

    • DolphinPatronus

      But don’t forget Harry was entered under a different school & would’ve been the ONLY option for that school so the goblet really had no choice but to pick him. So it is possible it could sense”evilness” but when given no other options went with what it had.

  • Elderdeb

    This is such a complex question. I think, given the level of skill Tom is described as having, he would be a natural to enter into the tournament, and he’d be a solid contender to win it. If the age restriction was in place, he’d have to be a 7th year at the time of the tournament. By 7th year, Tom was sort of just biding his time a Hogwarts. Would he have been interested in something such as the Triwizard Tournament, or would that have been beneath his aspirations by that point? One thing is for sure, if he had competed or even entered and not been chosen, it would have made his decision to be re-born in connection with the current tournament a signature Voldemort move!

  • Nymphradora Lovegood

    I think that the Goblet would have taken into account his personality, judging by the fact that the sorting hat is able to judge by personality. I think the goblet could have similar qualities. But, just because it may be able to tell, doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be picked; perhaps power would override personality.